[kj] Congrats Obama

[Karen Weil]

Point taken. Yes, Saddam was a bad, bad dude. And if this country is truly 
is devoted to helping oppressed peoples, then we really should be in 
Zimbabwe...

Ciao bella,

k.w.
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From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
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> You're both right, however none of the US collusion in terms of Saddam

> changes the fact that he was a genocidal loonbag, which is Mik's point and

> it's a valid one.

>

> It's just shameful that the 'States had anything to do with aiding him,

> the subsequent demonising was just hypocritical and opportunistic. An

> enemy was needed to justify US presence in that region. (IMO, I'm not

> writing a book about this stuff or anything ;).

>

>> You got it, Oliver. Also, here's another little thing the mainstream 

>> media

>> fails to mention: Saddam went into Kuwait in 1990 because, essentially,

>> our

>> government told him he could.

>> Sorry, Mik, but this country was happy to look the other way while Saddam

>> killed his own people, because he was "our SOB" during the 1980s.

>> And none of that will ever justify the invasion of Iraq.

>>

>> kw.

>> San Diego

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:24 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Congrats Obama

>>

>>

>>> When he was massacring his own people, a lot of that was done with US

>>> support. Also, the targets of one of his pogroms were the Kurds, whose

>>> plight the US really played up in the lead-up to Gulf War 1. The Kurds

>>> are

>>> also being massacred by US ally Turkey, which has US air bases in its

>>> southeast. We should overthrow them, too, no?

>>>

>>> -Oliver

>>>

>>>

>>> Mik Raven wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Is it just me, or does eveyone forget how Saddam was a genosidal despot

>>>> who was quite happy to massacre his own people?

>>>>

>>>

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