[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[Karen Weil]

CND concert? What does CND stand for?

Thanks,

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "iPat" <pmdavies at gmail.com>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims



> not what i said at all old boy

> i never implied any utopian dream. Why do you say that? The discussion

> was touching on the value of education and the the value of certain

> jobs. You have imposed your model onto my comments and distorted it in

> order to keep your 'status' within the group (not that i bear any ill

> will from it).

>

> My comment merely looks at perception, the value of doing what you are

> doing regardless of the illusion.

> the illusion is of equality. Its quite apparent that there is no

> equality and yet people talk about it as if there is. That is simply

> an illusion. Why live a lie?

>

> Killing Joke were right and wrong at the CND concert when they said

> you wont change anything. In terms of society, because of the reality

> that the wealth is controlled by a few, change will only be deemed

> useful to keep evreyone working to the best interests. They were wrong

> in that you may be a slave to that game because it covers all even if

> you hide in a cave in tibet, but you dont have to be mentally enslaved

> or accept their values.

>

> I for one appreciate the Doctor but i also appreciate the nurse

> despite society giving them differing values. I am pleased with the

> bin collector as much as i am with the school teacher. (nb White Trash

> by John King is well worth the read as a novel that touches this) The

> fact that the people who perpetuate the myth that all is fair and

> equal are the ones paid highly, MPs Lawyers Film producers etc.

>

> if we dont join the rat race in keeping the competition over social

> status alive, then we start to live as a community again, we start to

> care again. Whats utopian about that?

>

>

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

>>

>> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

>> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

>> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

>> know the world keeps turning...

>>

>> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can

>> be pretty shitty.

>>

>> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

>> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

>> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

>>

>> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

>>

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