[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[ade]

Yeah, I have the personal touch, so to speak!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of melinda grant
Sent: 23 July 2008 17:26
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


you said you were considering politics mik,perhaps me and ade can help you canvess ;D))))
 



> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:08:51 +0100

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> I have at least 12 months during my 20's & yeah, it a fucking scrimp-fest. Should've got the mrs preggers at the time, innit...

> 

> I think it's important to point out that I'm very close to the people I criticise in the so-called 'working class' or (self-made) 'underclass', so I can talk from experience, rather than some patronising Gaurdian reader from some leafy neighbourhood who hasn't a fucking clue.

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven

> Sent: 23 July 2008 17:04

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> 

> I have 6 years experience of full time unemployment back in my 20s. Not

> quite the same as getting a good salary for doing nothing though. I would

> miss all the little luxuries in life going back to that now. Looks like

> politics for me then! Lol

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 23 July 2008 17:00

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> > When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an

> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and

> experience!

> 

> Found it! It's either a matter of having been on the dole over the last

> decade, or becoming a politician !

> 

> Now someone please say I'm picking on 'vulnerable' people by mentioning the

> full-time dolies !!! The same full-time dolies who bitch about foreigners

> coming over here stealing their jobs (LOL!), without thinking (shock/horror)

> about the reason why the foreign workforce was required in the first place!

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mik Raven

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:50

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> 

> It's a nice dream that can never work in reality. People are too greedy and

> the ones who get to run the place too power hungry (or why else would they

> want the job?). And who would do the crappy jobs that nobody wants to do but

> still need doing in this utopia.

> 

> When you find that job paying for doing nothing at all ade, send me an

> application form. Sounds like the perfect role for me based on age and

> experience!

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:45

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> I wondered when this one would rear its' head, lol!

> 

> So, are you going to bring about the changes required to rid ourselves

> of the current EVIL paymaster/slave structure? I don't like it either,

> I wish someone would pay me money for doing nothing, frankly, but you

> know the world keeps turning...

> 

> So yeah, we can only live in the moment & make the most of it. Which can

> be pretty shitty.

> 

> Would you be the sort of person good enough to take a leadership role

> if we revolted, overthrew the existing system, etc, in order to make a

> whole new BETTER system? In fact, who would be?

> 

> Please, tell me of you utopian dream.

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of iPat

> Sent: 23 July 2008 16:28

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> 

> is the equal opportunities line another way of saying thet you are

> going to brainwash people into a work ethic that whilst giving them

> momentary rewards (money to buy food, achohol and posessions) simply

> serves to feed the machine that serves the rich, pollutes the world

> and perpetuates the myth so ellegantly portrayed by Orwell?

> 

> Whatever you do, by being in the zone at that moment is living and

> therefore equality is irrelevant because living is all thats

> important. Whether a brickie or a musician are equal is irrelevant as

> its someone elses measure that is imposing itself as a value to which

> we should obey.

> 

> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> > I'm all for giving everyone equal opportunities, damn straight! But giving

> > everyone an A is clearly not going to change a damn thing, other than to

> > make things worse!

> >

> > The other side of this is that if you & a bricky are 'equal' as is the

> idea

> > of this rubbish, then the bricky can go teach classical music, surely?

> Well,

> > he's equally qualified, so why not? We're all equal after, aren't we? Or

> is

> > it that everyone is different & socialists can't cope with that reality?

> >

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