[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

The Exorcist killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
Wed Jul 23 03:14:30 EDT 2008


And yet, you still ended up on The Gathering list!

Cheers,
Me :)

At 11:28 PM 7/22/2008, Brendan wrote:

>People, even kids, know when they are being patronised. Was reading an

>article about a study that showed that kids who are regularly lauded for

>'effort' and 'trying hard', all that shit, well basically it has a

>negative effect. Kids KNOW that performance and achievement is important,

>all that smiley glad-hands treatment, giving kids certificates for turning

>up to school twice in a row on time or not drooling over themselves

>today...it's crap, and we're gonna end up breeding a population of

>hapless, entitled cretins.

>

>I suppose often it's got the right intentions behind it, but we all know

>the saying about the road to hell. Or was that an AC/DC song...?

>

>As a bit of a slow learner and awkward kid at school, what I actually

>appreciated was some one-on-on with a patient teacher who took the time to

>go through what I was having difficulty with, in a way tailored to how I

>learned, away from the spotlight of other kids who were already good at

>it. My reward was the achievement, then the good press from the teacher or

>family or peers was genuine.

>

> > Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish

> > "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's uniform

> > of

> > choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they had

> > to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.

> >

> > I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of what

> > their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal opportunities,

> > me

> > - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their

> > hangups.

> > Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years back

> > -

> > they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great use

> > of

> > "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally tired

> > of

> > the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.

> >

> > Darren

> > Hungerford, UK

> >

> > NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's no

> > agenda here.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On

> > Behalf Of ade

> > Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> > Importance: High

> >

> > Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his

> > car

> > overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.

> > He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was

> > embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It

> > was

> > just a conversation about car woes.

> >

> > At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as

> > to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

> >

> > It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card

> > playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my

> > lefty friends don't believe exist.

> >

> > Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of

> > Lydon.

> > Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt

> > fashion, but was that John? We shall see...

> >

> >

> > ade.

> >

> > PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED

> > RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.

> > INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!

> >

> >

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