[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims - Minor Threat

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Tue Jul 22 16:14:47 EDT 2008


It's just another franchise to be profited from.

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For example about straight edge going off in different clicks is... The 80's religious vomit preachers, give me more of your money for God, Jim and Baker's son was a preaching stragiht edge dude. He even had a show on the movie channel IFC just awhile back.

~ LB


In a message dated 7/22/2008 12:59:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk writes:


Straight edge - just like any other religion innit - the 'followers' give it a bad name, don't follow it correctly, use it as an excuse to bash unbelievers, etc!

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Yep, they are! I first heard that song with my buddy in 1982 when we 14 and reading the lyrics and interviews it is spot on! It doesn't take a genius to know what they are about. That song also got Neo Nazis into Minor Threat thinking they were some Nazi Punk Band which is dumber than dumber! HA! But I hate that race card playing it is so old.

The Straight Edge thing is his baby and I think a lot of it got out of control. Like straight edge kids beating you up if you got a smoke or drink in hand. That is really punk let me tell you. But I guess you when you make a baby it at times turns into a monster.. Like The Beats or HC punk when it first came on the scene in L.A. and attracted Jocks and assholes.

~ LB



In a message dated 7/22/2008 12:35:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk writes:


Those lyrics are spot-on!!!

He'd know about prejudice too - wasn't the straight-edge 'religion' his little baby?

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Ade,

That is a trip. It is like the Minor Threat song "Guilty of Being White".. Which basically accuses Ian MacKaye of being prejudice.

“Guilty Of Being White"

I'm sorry
For something I didn't do
Lynched somebody
But I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white

I'm a convict
Of a racist crime
I've only served
19 years of my time

Guilty of being white

Now for the Lydon ordeal I believe it wasn't him and it was his thuggy friends. After all he was friends, or maybe still is with Don Letts? And their was also black dude in his band PIL too if I am not mistaken in later years?


~ LB







In a message dated 7/22/2008 4:32:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk writes:

Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his car overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out. He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It was just a conversation about car woes.

At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my lefty friends don't believe exist.

Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of Lydon. Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt fashion, but was that John? We shall see...


ade.

PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days. INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!








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