[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Tue Jul 22 16:13:56 EDT 2008


Nevertheless, a great example of how these things go, what people do with them, etc. Same happened
with TOPI, wherein a subversive starts a cult for fun, to see how they develop - soon it gains its' own
momentum, the 'creator' washes their hands of it & it continues without him.

What the fuck is wrong with these idiotic followers?!! Funny, I thought punk was all about individuality.

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True Alex, same here. It basically went all different ways too which was beyond me.

~ LB


In a message dated 7/22/2008 12:54:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vassifer at earthlink.net writes:

Ian never intended "Straight-Edge" to become the cult it became.

Alex in NYC




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Those lyrics are spot-on!!!

He'd know about prejudice too - wasn't the straight-edge 'religion' his little baby?

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Ade,

That is a trip. It is like the Minor Threat song "Guilty of Being White".. Which basically accuses Ian MacKaye of being prejudice.

“Guilty Of Being White"

I'm sorry
For something I didn't do
Lynched somebody
But I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilty of being white

I'm a convict
Of a racist crime
I've only served
19 years of my time

Guilty of being white

Now for the Lydon ordeal I believe it wasn't him and it was his thuggy friends. After all he was friends, or maybe still is with Don Letts? And their was also black dude in his band PIL too if I am not mistaken in later years?


~ LB







In a message dated 7/22/2008 4:32:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk writes:

Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his car overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out. He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It was just a conversation about car woes.

At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my lefty friends don't believe exist.

Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of Lydon. Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt fashion, but was that John? We shall see...


ade.

PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days. INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!








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