[kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

[ade]

Cheers ears. That's something like both sides versions now. Let's just sit back & see how things pan out...

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 22 July 2008 18:34
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims


"However, Lydon claims that Okereke's interpretation of what went down is all wrong. In  <http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/jul/21/john.lydon.denies.racist.attack> a statement quoted by the Guardian, he said, "I feel very sorry for a man that needs to lie about what was a perfect evening…trouble was brought us, resulting in those causing the trouble being physically removed by festival security…If they need publicity so badly this is the allegation universe they run into."


As for the accusations of racism, Lydon said, "We are in the middle of a wonderful tour, after 30 years we are achieving a true unity in our audience. They are multi-varied, all ages, all races, creeds and colours. When you are at a festival with bands who are jealous fools, lies and confusion usually follow."

Further dissing Okereke, Lydon added, "Grow up and learn to be a true man. It's a shame that the wonderful world of the media is riddled with nonsense like this.""

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/142386-sex-pistols-john-lydon-fights-bloc-partys-kele-okereke

 






> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:23:40 +0100

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> Spot-on.

> 

> Equality is the ultimate goal, but, erm, let's give it another

> thousand years or so, eh ;)

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

> Sent: 22 July 2008 17:24

> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> 

> 

> Mr. Okereke is also gay; either stuff.co.nz and Lydon's thuggish

> "associates" are unaware of this (I am not aware of Mr Okereke's uniform of

> choice being a glittery spandex catsuit and spaceman's helmet) or they had

> to concede that his being black was merely a more apparent target.

> 

> I have also met many people who have attempted to take advantage of what

> their behaviour implies they regard as a stigma; I'm equal opportunities, me

> - I'll be offensive to anyone who's offensive, regardless of their hangups.

> Did a lot of work with mentally & physically handicapped a few years back -

> they actively encouraged me to call them spackas (incidentally, great use of

> "spacka" in "Control", I thought). I concluded they were generally tired of

> the opposite treatment - the patronising deference.

> 

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

> 

> NB My oldest friend, and recently my best man, is a Gaylord, so there's no

> agenda here.

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 22 July 2008 12:33

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Sex Pistols singer faces race attack claims

> Importance: High

> 

> Years ago, my asian/muslim mate (Moh) was recounting to me the time his car

> overheated & he was fucking about under the bonnet, trying to sort it out.

> He reminisced about how he went to a nearby shop to get some help & was

> embarrassed 'cos his hands were covered in oil & were black from it. It was

> just a conversation about car woes.

> 

> At this point my black friend jumped in & started challenging seriously as

> to "What's wrong with having black hands?"

> 

> It occurred to me & Moh that the prick was nothing more than a race-card

> playing wanker, of which there are MANY. You know, those people that my

> lefty friends don't believe exist.

> 

> Sounds a bit like this story too, though I admit my bias in favour of Lydon.

> Nevertheless, I can imagine his thicko mates behaving in typical grunt

> fashion, but was that John? We shall see...

> 

> 

> ade.

> 

> PS. I LOVE DOUBLE-STANDARDS, OF COURSE THEY DON'T HARM SOCIETY & BREED

> RESENTMENT - THAT'S FOR RACISTS. Whatever 'racist' means these days.

> INJUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!

> 

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