[kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

[Brendan]

Do you sit down much? Sitting puts more stress on the lower back than
standing or lying (or hanging upside for that matter), so it's important
if you have a sedentary job and or sit down a lot in front of the telly,
fire or PC, to make sure you have a good chair (lumbar support), adjusted
to the right height etc (roughly 90 degree angle at the knee), sit with
good posture, take regular breaks, stay hydrated, and stretch the hip
flexors in particular...



> Had back issues for a long long time. I did cut down on my biking

> since I started handball.

> Only did 20 miles today earlier (Had time off in the afternoon). Then

> handball at night for 1 hour.

>

> I guess the one benfit of being single right now is no worrying about

> more exercise when the

> night calls and the mood arises. LOL

>

> Never cared for Rocky prefer cartoons or anime and that soon to

> arrive straight DVD special

> "Brendan Grimaces". I heard it's a suspense/semi thriller and might

> be painful at times. :)

>

> I have a hybrid bake which I can also ride sitting up by some minor

> adjustments. No difference.

>

> Thanks for the info though. And I most definitely (as stated above)

> taking it easier on my body.

>

> Cheers,

> Me

>

> Ps. Need lube?

>

>

> At 12:14 AM 7/16/2008, Brendan wrote:

>>Sounds to me like you might be overtraining. The body needs time to

>>accommodate to new stress, connective tissue is slower to adapt than

>>muscle. And training through injury or severe DOMS (delayed onset muscle

>>soreness...) is just counter-productive.

>>

>>It will be far harder for your body to recover and then adapt to handball

>>on top of hours of cycling a day, esp if the cycling is a relatively new

>>theme.

>>

>>Little increments = far better long term gains. Make your training

>>decisions logically not emotionally, Daniel-san. "Do today what will make

>>you fitter tomorrow" (or next time you train).

>>

>>Excessive work ethic is ingrained into a lot of people, that montage

>> scene

>>from Rocky has a lot to answer for...

>>

>>Anyways discard that if it's not relevant...could also be the bent-over

>>position of cycling. In which case stretching the lower back and hip

>>flexors will be helpful...but make sure you take it easy, because

>>overtraining and lack of flexibility = recipe for injury.

>>

>> > Thank you that I did forget to put the word "to" after need.

>> >

>> > Feeling OK, just probably overdoing the handball a bit.

>> > Back hurts like a bitch but probably needs a bit more warming up.

>> > Still get my ass outa bed and hope to play more tonight.

>> >

>> > Thanks for the well wishes!

>> >

>> > At 01:17 PM 7/15/2008, Karen Weil wrote:

>> >>Ex:

>> >>Clever use of words! Love it.

>> >>Feel better, OK?

>> >>

>> >>k.w.

>> >>----- Original Message -----

>> >>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist

>> >>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about all things Killing

>> >>Joke (the band!)

>> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:37 AM

>> >>Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

>> >>

>> >>I'm Greedy! :)

>> >>

>> >>Besides, every exorcist must exercise his ability to exorcise. If

>> >>the exorcist fails to exercise his exorcism skills the exorcist will

>> end

>> >> up

>> >>having the exorcism skills exorcised from him/her. Hence all

>> >>exorcists need Exercise and Exorcise.

>> >>

>> >>Rise from my bad achey back... Let me Rise!!!

>> >>(This hand ball shit is killing me!)

>> >>

>> >>Cheers,

>> >>

>> >>At 01:48 AM 7/15/2008, Brendan wrote:

>> >>>Isn't exorcise good enough exercise Exorcist?

>> >>>

>> >>>"RISE FROM MY NUMB HAUNCHES LET IT RISE!!!!!"

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> > Good luck with the ride, Exorcist. I admire your fortitude.

>> >>> > k.w.

>> >>> >   ----- Original Message -----

>> >>> >   From: The Exorcist

>> >>> >   To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> >>> >   Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:37 PM

>> >>> >   Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   Not that fit LOL (Still smoke as well). I'm thin but not in

>> shape.

>> >>> I

>> >>> > became quite ill 2 years ago and was out of sorts for a while.

>> >>> >   I've been playing basketball once a week for about 2 hours the

>> past

>> >>> 2

>> >>> > years and decided that my jump is nowhere

>> >>> >   compared to what it used to be and I missed biking a lot. When I

>> >>> got

>> >>> > sick I left my bike (gorgeous Bianchi) by someone and

>> >>> >   it sorta got borrowed by someone who forgot to *ahem* return it.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   Bought a bike on June 11, cost me a pretty fucking penny but try

>> to

>> >>> do a

>> >>> > bit everyday. Racked up about 450 miles on it.

>> >>> >   Got my cousin to buy one as well, he's got a wee bit of a gut so

>> it

>> >>> > comes in handy for the both of us. he's now teaching me handball

>> >>> >   and totally kicking my ass. Shoulder has soreness but it's

>> getting

>> >>> less

>> >>> > and less. I try to do a bit everyday so I don't get rusty.

>> >>> >   Only problem is I come home between 5-7pm, my cousin comes home

>> >>> between

>> >>> > 8-10pm so our routines run a tad late.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   I'm hoping to get into shape so I can do the New York Century

>> ride

>> >>> in

>> >>> > september.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   Mind you losing is ok if you get a decent workout. LOL

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   Cheers,

>> >>> >   Me

>> >>> >

>> >>> >   At 04:44 PM 7/10/2008, Mike Cooper wrote:

>> >>> >

>> >>> >     blimey how fit are you.  Had my first game of cricket of the

>> >>> season on

>> >>> > Tuesday and its half killed me!!  I can't walk properly.  I play

>> >>> > wicket keeper and all the bobbibg up and down has made muscles not

>> >>> > normally in use seize up completly - ouch!  Too old for all that

>> >>> > obviously.  And we lost!

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       ----- Original Message -----

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       From: The Exorcist

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       To: Alex Smith ; A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> >>> band!)

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:53 AM

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       Subject: Re: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       Wake up, go to work, come home, get on my new bike, cycle

>> (for

>> >>> like

>> >>> > 2 hours), or handball or basketball, more cycle, get home at 1-2am

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       shower, eat, sleep. Rinse and repeat.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       Exciting ehhh?

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >       At 11:16 AM 7/9/2008, Alex Smith wrote:

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         Me: Trying to stay employed, sane and solvent. Trying to

>> keep

>> >>> cool

>> >>> > in the Summer heat. Missing my wife & children during the week, as

>> >>> > they're currently esconced out at my Mother's place on Long Island

>> >>> > for all of July (I go out there on weekends). Trying to ignore the

>> >>> > Tinnitus in my right ear. Trying to not drink so much goddamn beer

>> >>> > and eat so much cruddy food, as now that I'm forty, I don't seem

>> >>> > to shed the weight quite as swiftly as I used to do. Have been

>> >>> > considreing stepping away from The Gathering, if only because I

>> >>> > rarely have the time to devote to it.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         Trying not to stress out so much, but that seems

>> unavoidable.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         Looking forward to KJ shows in October, obviously.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         Alex in NYC

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         -----Original Message-----

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Sent: Jul 9, 2008 5:40 AM

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>> >>> > <gathering at misera.net>

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Subject: [kj] Thread attempt one: Poll

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >What's everyone up to these days?

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Me - moving to Sydney in a week.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Geoff I owe you a few drinks for that god-awful CD you

>> sent

>> >>> me,

>> >>> > Unforgivable

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >or Unlistenable or whatever it was, if you're still

>> >>> > lurkering...are there

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >any other Australian Lurkerers? Or perhaps I could

>> discharge

>> >>> my

>> >>> > debt with a

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >copy of Chinese Democracy...discharge being the operative

>> >>> word...

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >-----Original Message-----

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [

>> >>> > mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Behalf Of Blazingstar418

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 7:52 p.m.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >Subject: Re: [kj] test

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         > Nope, you haven't been dropped, it's *really* just that

>> >>> slow

>> >>> > around here.

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >I was wondering the same thing myself. ;)

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >A L P

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Wrightdvdw at aol.com

>> <Wrightdvdw at aol.com>

>> >>> > wrote:

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >> From: Wrightdvdw at aol.com <Wrightdvdw at aol.com>

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >> Subject: [kj] test

>> >>> >

>> >>> >         >> To: gathering at misera.net

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>> >>> >         >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:32 AM

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>> someone

>> >>else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers

>> >>contribute

>> >>to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is

>> >>unethical, while

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>> > else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers

>> > contribute

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> Competition is a barbaric, insensitive ritual that reeks of social

> Darwinism.

> We cannot allow the fittest to survive on our pages. Your loss is someone

> else's gain, and your gain is someone else's loss. Therefore, losers

> contribute

> to the society and winners take away from it. Being a winner is

> unethical, while

> a society of losers is happy and striving as a collective. In the

> spirit of diversity,

> inclusiveness, and collectivism our contests shall have no winners.

> Everyone is declared a loser, which in our book means an ethical team

> player.

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