[kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

[Brendan Quinn]

Jaz is a really polarising fucker, I think he gives free rein to his
emotions (positive and negative) when he speaks, doesn’t
over-intellectualise or pass everything by the social censor, so to speak,
hence he talks about the band’s massive fights and his murderous and
suicidal thoughts etc, openly on camera. I suppose you either believe he’s
being honest or that he’s a narcissistic twat who is trying to big-note
himself and make himself out to be a modern day Crowley or whatever. As I
said, I haven’t met him so I wouldn’t venture a comment, I do know I find
him a) talented and b) entertaining as fuck.

 

I think the expectations for these guys must be huge, Gatherers are
extremely loyal & demanding fans, and with Killing Joke’s history to live up
to…there must be a huge amount of tension to perform. They’ll be aware that
what they do with this tour will be keenly noted by their fans and critics.
And I reckon a lot of fans will be on edge too, because no one wants to see
a train wreck a la Metallica happen to Killing Joke. Dog forbid.

 

On a tangent, I may be wrong but I believe that there’s an observation in
psychology that the intensity of emotion of one sort can be transferred into
other, even opposite emotions (i.e. your love / hate comment). As in angry
sex…or getting to the point of such frustration or boredom that you end up
laughing uncontrollably (perhaps that’s a me thing?). Anyway, the reason I
mention it, is that with the expectation to perform to the same level, an
estranged relationship of almost two decades, the passing of a band member
etc, there will be a fair bit of tension, and that could go in any
direction, positive or negative. Mathematics of Chaos kinda stuff. Which I
find really exciting in terms of what they can do with that energy, in a
positive sense.

 

I wonder if they want to wrap up the doco before this new stage begins or
what? Lots of questions.

 

Fuck I’m supposed to be studying! :-)

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 12:38 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

 

You know, it is a thin line between love and hate.  I guess that is the
bottom line.  So, keeping up with this band and then seeing these clips,
well, of course everyone can see it got me upset.  But we wouldn't be
debating shite bands, ya know?  Simon LeBON is such a drama queen! LOL  
 
Anyhoo, this band will always be in my top three for inspiration.  So if it
is the Jaz Coleman show, so be it.  Like I said, I will still watch it.  I
can't imagine the excitement of being in the UK at the time they were really
active, cause even I romanticized it across the pond years later.  I guess
that is why I was feeling resentment.  I want the KJ with BPF back in full
effect.  That was really all I wanted to say.  
 
-Bette    



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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:06:16 +1200
Subject: Re: [kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

In all honesty I don’t know enough about the band or the band members
individually to defend or vilify them, so I’ll reserve my comments on that.
Except to say that I didn’t get that impression about Jaz’s comments about
Raven.

 

I’m really looking forward to the movie regardless of its focus. In terms of
whether it’s going to be the Jaz Coleman Sideshow or more about Killing
Joke, for starters it’s not finished, we’ve only seen snippets, also we’ve
seen plenty of clips of people talking about the band, including the band
members, other musicians (Page), Gatherers, and music industry people. I’m
also not sure if it’s a pure doco, if you watch The Year of the Devil (it’s
up on YouTube) and also Jaz’s comments about getting real people to ‘play’
parts etc, then I get the impression that it’s part movie / part doco, and
for the viewer to decide how much to believe. Which I can dig. That’s the
idea with Gnosticism I suppose, you take what’s useful to you and discard
what’s not, and learn through experience. I think people were a bit freaked
out by Jaz’s sermon, but I get the impression that’s either part of the
movie, or him getting up there and letting his dark side or shadow have a
vent…? Dunno really, that’s part of the fun I suppose.

 

I’m interested (and entertained) by Jaz’s ideas and philosophies, but yeah
I’m also keen to hear more from the other band members about the same as
it’s a common and unifying thread, so I agree, I hope there’s room given to
the other band members to discuss their ideas. I was sucked into KJ by
Pandemonium, partly by the lyrical content of songs like Exorcism,
Communion, Labyrinth, Mathetmatics of Chaos etc, so anything any of them
have to talk about in terms of philosophy, the nature of life, the universe
and everything…I’m keen to hear. It’s a rare band that has something
interesting to say. 

 

Anyways, I’m looking forward to the DVD coming out, and if I can fangle
coming over to the UK to see them I’ll be stoked, if not then I’ll be
putting a hex on the assholes responsible for stopping me.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 10:45 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

 

Sure, Mr Coleman is the most verbose and manically narcissistic of the band.
He is "spoken about" the most because he has made the most public attempts
to garner attention towards himself.   
 
Didn't he attempt to make a solo album and it had to be at the last minute
altered to an infamously bad Killing Joke album?  I rest my case.
  
However, his lyrical ability has touched my heart.  Can't deny it.
Ironically, I recommend KJ to more people than any other band, period.  I
told a local rapper that he had to listen to KJ when he was writing a song
called "Gods and Queens".  He really liked them.      
 
My point, though, is that the movie is not called "Jaz The Spazz"......the
movie is supposed to be about Killing Joke.  

And, yes, I would watch this movie and anything with Jaz Coleman.  But I am
angered this is being promoted when a very important tour is coming up.    
 
My heart and mind is on the side of team Killing Joke, not just Mr Coleman,
period.
 
When Mr Coleman said that Raven had been complaining about chest pain for
months before his death, and Mr Coleman said nothing about recommending a
doctor to him, it told me all I needed to know.  I did not find that funny,
did you?
 
-Bette 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:04:48 +1200
Subject: Re: [kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

Oh come on, any way you look at it Jaz is the most entertaining
motherfucker. Whether you find him a bit spinal tap, whatever, at least he
has the decency to laugh after his huge statements. And who do we spend more
time talking about on the list than anyone else…? (Except Bush ;)

 

I’ve shown the various Jaz interviews to a few people, no one has failed to
be at the very least entertained. My little brother’s favourite Jaz bit is
how he squeezes out those lines at the beginning of Asteroid (“And the third
angel sounded, and a star fell from heaven…”). He reckons it sounds like a
drunk guy taking a shit. Have to say that cracked me up…even though that
song’s one of my favourites :-) 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:11 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] New trailer for Death & Resurrection Show

 

I am just wondering how the hell these guys are practicing for this
tour.....I mean, if this mockumentary is mostly the "Jaz show" put it on
hold as well as any "previews", film the reunion, then the Jaz man can go
psycho again about Jimmy Page being his long lost brother all he wants in
this "Death and Resurrection Show".


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