[kj] ASTEROOIDD!

[bongo]

http://www.brucecathie.com/

this is the dude...
i've got three of his books but i see that he has some films out now...


=)




On 6/30/08, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> that NZ author... um... thingy... he went into it in detail in one of

> his books... 'Harmonic 33'  faaaarkin cool idea's, doubt its correct

> tho...

>

> =)

>

> (no time to go into detail... 5 min left online at cafe!)

>

>

> On 6/30/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> > Yeah well known amongst conspiracy theorists, various whacky theories like

> > UFOs, secret weapons of the soviets being tested etc, in reality it's far

> > more consistent with a rocky / icy body exploding in the air and sending a

> > shockwave down.

> >

> > I'm not too sure about the reporting in that Yahoo article, the Wiki article

> > does mention some mineral deposits in the area consistent with a meteorite:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> > Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> > Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 5:14 a.m.

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: [kj] ASTEROOIDD!

> >

> > [Weird. I'd never heard of this. - Oliver]

> >

> >

> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080629/sc_afp/sciencespaceimpacttunguska

> >

> >

> >  100 years on, mystery shrouds massive 'cosmic impact' in Russia

> >

> > by Richard Ingham/

> > Sun Jun 29, 3:20 AM ET/

> >

> > A hundred years ago this week, a gigantic explosion ripped open the dawn

> > sky above the swampy taiga forest of western Siberia, leaving a

> > scientific riddle that endures to this day.

> >

> > A dazzling light pierced the heavens, preceding a shock wave with the

> > power of a thousand atomic bombs which flattened 80 million trees in a

> > swathe of more than 2,000 square kilometres (800 square miles).

> >

> > Evenki nomads recounted how the blast tossed homes and animals into the

> > air. In Irkutsk, 1,500 kilometres (950 miles) away, seismic sensors

> > registered what was initially deemed to be an earthquake. The fireball

> > was so great that a day later, Londoners could read their newspapers

> > under the night sky.

> >

> > What caused the so-called Tunguska Event, named after the Podkamennaya

> > Tunguska river near where it happened, has spawned at least a half a

> > dozen theories.

> >

> > The biggest finger of blame points at a rogue rock whose destiny, after

> > travelling in space for millions of years, was to intersect with Earth

> > at exactly 7:17 am on June 30, 1908.

> >

> > Even the most ardent defenders of the sudden impact theory acknowledge

> > there are many gaps. They strive to find answers, believing this will

> > strengthen defences against future Tunguska-type threats, which experts

> > say occur with an average frequency from one in 200 years to one in

> > 1,000 years.

> >

> > "Imagine an unspotted asteroid laying waste to a significant chunk of

> > land... and imagine if that area, unlike Tunguska and a surprising

> > amount of the globe today, were populated," the British science journal

> > Nature commented last week.

> >

> > If a rock was the culprit, the choices lie between an asteroid -- the

> > rubble that can be jostled out of its orbital belt between Mars and

> > Jupiter and set on collision course with Earth -- and a comet, one of

> > the "icy dirtballs" of frozen, primeval material that loop around the

> > Solar System.

> >

> > Comets move at far greater speeds than asteroids, which means they

> > release more kinetic energy pound-for-pound upon impact. A small comet

> > would deliver the same punch as a larger asteroid.

> >

> > But no fragments of the Tunguska villain have ever been found, despite

> > many searches.

> >

> > Finding a piece is important, for it will boost our knowledge about the

> > degrees of risk from dangerous Near Earth Objects (NEOs), say Italian

> > researchers Luca Gasperini, Enrico Bonatti and Giuseppe Longo.

> >

> > When a new asteroid is detected, its orbit can be plotted for scores of

> > years in the future.

> >

> > Comets are far less numerous than asteroids but are rather more

> > worrying, as they are largely an unknown entity.

> >

> > Most comets have yet to be spotted because they take decades or even

> > hundreds of years to go around the Sun and pass our home. As a result,

> > any comet on a collision course with Earth could quite literally come

> > out of the dark, leaving us negligible time to respond.

> >

> > "(I)f the Tunguska event was in fact caused by a comet, it would be a

> > unique occurrence rather than an important case study of a known class

> > of phenomena," Gasperini's team write in this month's issue of

> > Scientific American.

> >

> > "On the other hand, if an asteroid did explode in the Siberian skies

> > that June morning, why has no-one yet found fragments?"

> >

> > NEO experts are likewise unsure about the size of the object.

> >

> > Estimates, based on the scale of ground destruction, range from three

> > metres (10 feet) to 70 metres (227 feet).

> >

> > All agree that the object, heated by friction with atmospheric

> > molecules, exploded far above ground -- between several kilometres

> > (miles) and 10 kms (six miles).

> >

> > But there is fierce debate as to whether any debris hit the ground.

> >

> > This too is important. When the next Tunguska NEO looms, Earth's

> > guardians will have to choose whether to try to deflect it or blow it up

> > in space, with the risk that objects of a certain size may survive the

> > fiery passage through the atmosphere and hit the planet.

> >

> > The Italian trio believe the answers lie in a curiously-shaped oval

> > lake, called Lake Cheko, located about 10 kilometres (six miles) from

> > ground zero.

> >

> > Computer models, they say, suggest it is the impact crater from a metre-

> > (three-feet) -sized fragment that survived the explosion.

> >

> > They plan a return expedition to Lake Cheko in the hope of reaching a

> > dense object of this size, buried 10 metres (32.5 feet) in the lake's

> > cone-shaped floor, that reflected sonar waves.

> >

> > But what if neither comet nor asteroid were to blame?

> >

> > A rival theory is given an airing in this week's New Scientist.

> >

> > Lake Cheko does not have the typical round shape of an impact crater,

> > and no extraterrestrial material has been found, which means "there's

> > got to be a terrestrial explanation," Wolfgang Kundt, a physicist at

> > Germany's Bonn University told the British weekly.

> >

> > He believes the Tunguska Event was caused by a massive escape of 10

> > million tonnes of methane-rich gas deep within Earth's crust. Evidence

> > of a similar apocalyptic release can be found on the Blake Ridge on the

> > seabed off Norway, a "pockmark" of 700 sq. kms (280 sq. miles), Kundt said.

> >

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