[kj] When Goths Cry... Gisele smiles,

[sade1]

  A cousin of mine owns a mortgage finance company and i've seen him 
  with me'own eyes repeatedly telling (2-4 times) a client that IF they go "subprime"
  they will have to flip (sell yet again) the property before the interest rate 
  and mortgage payment go up AND he'd then show them in 2 different 
  newspapers where the Fed.Reserve index rates are listed, and the clients will 
  still all nod, "yes...yes, master...the American Dream...we still buy.." - and buy 
  the houses anyway.
   
    Not all, but several clients are now foreclosing, but there's not much to be done at this point.
  

Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                All that crap about the problems in subprime not spreading around the world because the world economy has ‘de-coupled from the US’…did anyone really believe that?! 
  Bullshit. The world economy hasn’t de-coupled from the ‘States... 
   
  It’s starting to really amaze me the more I notice how people bullshit themselves…
   
      
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  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 8:01 p.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry... Gisele smiles,

   
      If even Gisele Bundchen says "no" to the Dollar and proceeds to insist on being paid Euros, the Dollar cannot be the leading currency for long.

      Whatever she wears, i mean, says, I'm all for it; she speaks Truth. [1 more]

Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

      I disagree…the US is still the leading currency, the others are fast approaching however, as is the yuan. There is a whole theory that the Euro was invented for just this very reason…to bring the USD down in the pecking order. I am all for it, the US has completely lost any moral majority as far as I’m concerned, the day Bush was voted in the 2nd time (or the first real time if you want).

     

    If you’re a conspiracy theorist like Bongo and I you might have heard about plans for the Amero, proposed new currency and border structure for the US / Canada / Mexico…along the lines of the Euro but with its own associated political ramifications:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

     

    The news Nazis have managed to keep this one on the low down until now…

     

      
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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of pascal
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 5:57 a.m.
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...


     

    That’s cos the € and the £ are now the leading currencies….the sun is setting on the American empire…

     

     

      
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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 20 February 2008 17:51
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...


     

    Many Americans also don't realize they're in a recession.
On the whole, most Europeans earn a lot more than your average American.



> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:42:17 -0600

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...

> 

> There was some weird statistic that came out a couple of years ago that 

> said something like 60% of Americans thought they were in the Top 20% of 

> income earners or something. Americans generally have a really distorted 

> view of class - it's not supposed to exist here, except/unless it is the 

> middle class, whih is supposed to be omnipresent.

> 

> -Oliver

> 

> 

> folk devil wrote:

> > So, that puts quite a lot of middle-class Americans under the poverty 

> > line then. ;)

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:32:42 -0800

> > From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] When Goths Cry...

> >

> > So, what /is/ middle-class, according to Europeans and U.K.eans?

> > I live in the United States and here "everybone is 'middle-class'."**

> >

> 

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