[kj] Thoughts on the remasters

[Christof hamille]

Fire Dances - Mighty.  The original vinyls was okay at best.  You'd typically have to blast it to appreciate the nuianuances on vinyl.  The tape mwas awful and the  CD was worse.  Grade A

Night Time.  I hear a difference but it was pretty good to begin with.  The bonus' are the real gems.

BTATS - Wow.  I have a new appreciation for this release.  The original on e never bothered me but thus mix really breathes new life into it.  I do agree that comparing the original to the remaster would be nice.

OTG - It still sucks.  Does it sound better? Absolutely.  Is it worth anything? No.  The only thing I appreciated from it was the innards.  Beyond that it still stinks

Chris


> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:06:49 +0000

> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Thoughts on the remasters

> 

> You DO get the feeling that a remaster is in order because it wasn't done properly in the first place...

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Mark Kolmar

> Sent: 10 February 2008 21:24

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Thoughts on the remasters

> 

> 

> As with the Manics' _The Holy Bible_, the best version probably would

> have included some of both the mixes.  The combination of mixes would

> have added textural variety, in particular as a balance against the

> otherwise odd sound of "A Southern Sky" and "Victory" (latter not on

> vinyl).  Each version has a different type of intensity that I cannot

> really judge as better or worse on the whole.

> 

> The Kimsey mix of "Chessboards", as a prime example, brings out the

> rhythmic and harmonic counterpoint between the guitar and keyboards,

> and thus adds depth.  The Kimsey mix of "Rubicon" brings a greater

> heft.  But I feel "Adorations" loses some essential atmosphere, even

> if that same type of approach may sound syrupy as applied to other

> songs on the album.

> 

> Restoration of the missing verse from "Love of the Masses" is most

> welcome addition that gives the track better proportion.  (I am

> guessing that was originally edited for time on vinyl?)

> 

> Also, this new, "restored mixes" version strikes me as a bit of

> revisionist history.  That is not how the record sounded for the last

> 20 years, for good or bad.  It might have been best to issue both sets

> of mixes on a double disc set, which also would have left room for the

> extant 12" mixes.  Too bad the UK 12" version of "Sanity" did not make

> it.

> 

> Having said all this, if I could only keep one edition, likely I would

> choose the new remaster with some reluctance.

> 

> --Mark

> 

> On Feb 4, 2008 5:48 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >

> > Conversely, the new mix of BTATS has given me a whole new appreciation for

> > the record. If only they'd released it this way the first time around. Much

> > cleaner, sharper, crisper....burlier. All the muddled studio syrup was

> > excised. A huge improvement.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

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