[kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...

Stephen Lawrence stephen.l at live.com
Mon Dec 22 19:16:08 EST 2008



for what it's worth i saw them at the academy brixtahn londahn engerland and sorry to say as much as i love the album they were a big dissappointment live so glad to discover prong supporting who didn't get a fair hearing from the sychophantic fnm fans btw i 've commented on a coupla things but nobody seems to wanna acknowledge me or the comments

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:54:52 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...







Angeldust is epic but I’d also have to loved to see FNM touring around the time of The Real Thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAqXJYY11eA

Chances of getting laid have to be good after going to an early Mike Patton gig…

I’ve got all their albums, even the early ones, but I don’t even know the guitarist’s name. Reminds me of Kim Thayil. Damn good.




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of jerry bodkinSent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:46To: gathering at misera.netSubject: [kj] FW: Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...





From: jelbod at hotmail.co.ukTo: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.ukSubject: RE: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:15:16 +0000 Yep, i'm with you Jim, Angeldust is a superb album, funnily enough the Mrs. and i gave it a spin just the other day, well worth it. The only track worth a listen on TRT is Woodpeckers From Mars, but that's just my opinion. Jel No More.



Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:09:18 +0000From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.ukTo: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...





I suspect that the brief single 'squeak' taken from 'Cecilia' was the band's witty riposte after being told off for putting so many samples on Angel Dust.



Angel Dust is an incredible album, for sure. I was a bit bemused to see the '1001 Albums You Must Own Before You Die' including The Real Thing but not Angel Dust. TRT isn't a bad album at all, but it's neither as good nor as original as the next one.



I've always felt it's a pity that so many bands were inspired by FNM to play a fusion of funk, rap and metal, when they should really have been inspired to ignore genre limitations and carve out their own path- FNM's real musical legacy.



Jim.

--- On Mon, 22/12/08, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 4:39 PM


FNM, good call. Is it just me or is the horn at 6 seconds into Midlife Crisis a crackup?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESjyB8EMw4w

Angel Dust is an album you gotta have, no excuse permitted. The following video is total proof that nothing coming out these days compares to the early 90s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKjeRgn4CA&feature=related






From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim HarperSent: Tuesday, 23 December 2008 03:00To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke's career/[OT] Other Bands...






Just thought I'd chime in with a few more acts worth tracking down and evaluating:



A) I'm sure most Joke fans (and people into general alternative/metal in the early 90s) will already have digested and evaluated these guys, but if you haven't, it's definitely worth looking at Faith No More. Their first two albums are patchy funk-metal with a bad singer, while The Real Thing is solid funk-metal with a decent singer, but they were something entirely different on Angel Dust, King For A Day and Album of the Year: heavy, experimental, funny, abrasive and defiantly individualist. They were openly influenced by Killing Joke- the drummer was very inlfuenced by the Joke and PiL, Billy Gould's bass playing is often reminscent of Raven's, while they're another of the few rock/metal bands of the time that used keyboards openly without sounding wimpy or poppy. I know not everyone on here thinks much of 'em, but for my money Faith No More were one of the greats. (It's just a shame some of the guitar on Angel Dust is so mediocre- Jim Martin was just not up to the task by then).



B) Not as abrasive as the Joke, but the first two Psychedelic Furs albums really deserve a listen for anyone into post-punk or new wave. Having said that, anyone into post-punk or new wave has probably already heard them.



C) D'espairsRay. Japanese rock. First-rate Japanese rock, well worth hearing. Much better than the somewhat overrated Dir En Grey.



My 2p'th.



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