[kj] I JIHAD YOUR NEW ALBUM

[Stephen Lawrence]

that was an enjoyable rant bet you felt good after getting that off your chest i admire your devotion to music and there;s me thinking i was music mad but i am aware that artists primarily write for them selves as therapy just like us listening to it and also it is a product and should be viewed as such i take comfort in the back catalogues and resign myself to the fact that modern day '' artists'' are more money driven than emotionallyhence decline in quality so enjoy what you have i say by all means collect those elusive tracks you missed first time around and if an artist ''sells out '' let it go life is too short

From: bq at soundgardener.co.nzTo: gathering at misera.netDate: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:59:27 +1100Subject: Re: [kj] I JIHAD YOUR NEW ALBUM







I’m a Killing Joke fan, along with PIL, Queen, Beck, Radiohead, Led Zep, Pink Floyd…changing directions is fine. 
 
But if I’m on a hike and the trail leader takes a detour into the LAKE OF SHIT I’m not following. 
 
“Brendan come back and stop swearing, it’s just a change of direction…right and left is all relative…if you were a shit feeder you’d really like it, it’s all perspective, decomposers are a critical part of the ecosy…..”
 
Yeah, I’m not a shit feeder, I haven’t devoted as much of my life to music as I have, spent hours working crap jobs with idiots to earn money to buy records and go to gigs, collected back catalogs, spent thousands to convert my entire collection to CD when the format changed, bought crap compilations from people on the other side of the world just to get a single track (a mediocre cover of an average song just for completeness), read thousands of interviews, tried to expand my tastes by listening to average crap, fallen asleep after listening to stuff for hours and hours, put up with all the shit mainstream music I’ve had to endure in clubs, bars, other’s people’s houses, lifts, malls, supermarkets, made mix tapes for girlfriends, tied as much of my life as I have into the music I was listening to at the time, NOT to have an opinion. 
 
An opinion other than “OH I LIKE PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING…EXCEPT DEATH METAL, HAHA”
 
Fuck that PC bullshit argument, just ‘cos everyone spouts it, and just ‘cos on the face of it it looks conciliatory and all-inclusive, doesn’t actually mean it has any merit. You CAN compare across categories:
 
“A sub-par apple is always better than a tomato covered in shit, no matter how much you don’t like apples and do like tomatoes.”
 
The only defence to the above is if you are allergic to apples (in which case, in the analogical sense to my argument, you’re tone deaf or music makes you physically ill) or you actually like shit…which seems to be where the world is heading music wise.
 
PS: Welcome to the list J
 
PPS: This sums up how I feel, in Chris’s own words:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43zd1jM1NU
 
(The monotonous, semi-dead riff is intentional…you kinda get it or you don’t) 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen LawrenceSent: Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:51To: gathering at misera.netSubject: Re: [kj] I JIHAD YOUR NEW ALBUM
 
why oh why do people get so upset when an artist changes direction get over it enjoy the back catalogue and let it be artists are no different to vou or i and i'm sure if we reached that level of success we'd be turned to the darkside> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz> To: gathering at misera.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:33:11 +1100> Subject: Re: [kj] I JIHAD YOUR NEW ALBUM> > There is no fucking CD that'll come close to the return velocity, accuracy,> and bad intentions if it's ever distributed my way. And I'll be quoting> lines that were cut from The Exorcist for being too foul.> > Anyone who can defend that album can defend me against Satan at the doors of> hell against video and swab evidence of me in my early teens. > > I mean, was he thinking: "I'll blow those fucking Rage Against the Machine> cunts off the fucking charts, and Axl too"> > Every single note Kim Thayil hasn't played since April 1997 sounds SO much> better than this. > > At this rate he's gonna end up in Vegas performing with Rent-A-Frampton at> 3am Tuesday nights:> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqBj77GOiak&feature=channel> > Here's my only real idea for WHY: he cut ties with most of his friends from> the past when he moved to Paris with his new wife, is quite possibly still> trying to show them all, all the old friends, the ex wife (acrimonious split> involving kids), Soundgarden, Audioslave, that he's doing better than ever,> he's still the man. Like, duh. A silver disc up on the wall means success?!> > Chris's solo stuff ALWAYS rocked (until last year), there was never any need> to prove it. Temple of the Dog is basically a Chris Cornell solo album,> there are only 2 non-Cornell tracks on it.> > This is from back in '91, him on guitar too:> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXS-CLnwNok> > No point left to prove after that.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On> Behalf Of TB> Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2008 03:34> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)> Subject: Re: [kj] I JIHAD YOUR NEW ALBUM> > "Brendan Quinn" wrote:> > > OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO:> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU2Mj4sW6dk> > I saw this coming the moment I heard Cornell was working with > Timbaland(sp?). It's so funny how some people defend his new album because > he's "changing" and "evolving" as an artist. Well yeah, but who'da thought > a human could evolve into a spineless turd?> > It's kinda like when David Lee Roth started doing cheesy Beach Boys and > Louis Prima medleys and became a Vegas Lounge singer. At least Roth carried> > a bit of his attitude and humor with him when he made that regrettable > switch - Cornell sounds like he completely submerged his identity to become > the King of supermarket shopping music.> > T.B. > > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering



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