[kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

cliffmonka at alaska.net cliffmonka at alaska.net
Mon Aug 18 05:36:09 EDT 2008


not to forget they have a white guy in black face,racist film aswell.they consulted
the NAACP but none of the agencies serving people who experience disabilities.
Go figure,why would they care if they make fun of a defenseless group,utter cowards
these hollywood people are.Completly Fked off,Cliff



> Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self

> obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to

> the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think

> about themselves?

>

> I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they

> are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use

> of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are.

>

> Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more

> publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.

>

>

> 2008/8/18 <cliffmonka at alaska.net>

>

>> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest

>> boycotting

>> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff

>>

>> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261

>>

>> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

>>

>>

>> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html

>> >

>> >

>> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*

>> >> By Timothy Shriver

>> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15

>> >>

>> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic

>> Thunder,"

>> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the

>> chance

>> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read

>> excerpts = of

>> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the =

>> humanity of

>> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope

>> and

>> >> respect.

>> >>

>> >> Consider this exchange:

>> >>

>> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when

>> = I

>> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded."

>> >>

>> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to

>> believe

>> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb."

>> >>

>> >> Downey: "To be a moron."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "Yeah."

>> >>

>> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual

>> disabilities,<=

>> >> BR>they say:

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?"

>> >>

>> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard."

>> >>

>> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?"

>> >>

>> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act

>> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic,

>> sure. Not

>> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded,

>> maybe.

>> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a

>> ping-pong

>> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go

>> full

>> >> retard."

>> >>

>> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know

>> about

>> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity

>> offenders.

>> >>

>> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity

>> offenders:

>> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,=

>> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their =

>> parents

>> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn

>> them

>> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of

>> this

>> >> is funny.

>> >>

>> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic

>> spiritual

>> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the

>> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with

>> intellectual

>> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless.

>> >>

>> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming

>> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great

>> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's

>> poor.

>> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of

>> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.

>> >>

>> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine

>> covers.

>> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of

>> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit

>> never

>> >> does.)

>> >>

>> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom

>> they

>> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just

>> think

>> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha.

>> >>

>> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't

>> funny.

>> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual

>> disabilities

>> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard

>> doctors

>> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60

>> percent of

>> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their

>> >> child's = school.

>> >>

>> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over

>> being

>> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are

>> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being

>> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.

>> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a

>> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are

>> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.

>> >>

>> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a

>> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since

>> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy,

>> >> R-rated = comedies.

>> >>

>> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about

>> language

>> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your

>> religious

>> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with

>> intellectual

>> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of

>> >> dignity.

>> >>

>> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and

>> our

>> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating

>> others is

>> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.

>> >>

>> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for

>> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:

>> >>>

>> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder

>> >>>

>> >>> That's a great website, btw.

>> >>>

>> >>> -Oliver

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>> folk devil wrote:

>> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang

>> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..

>> >>>>

>> >>>> /"/

>> >>>>

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>> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700

>> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

>> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder

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