[kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder
blankwerks
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Mon Aug 18 04:20:16 EDT 2008
Isn't the film also about the ludicrous behaviour of a group of self
obsessed actors? surely their dismissal and mockery of any group is down to
the fact that they are in fact a load of complete wankers only able to think
about themselves?
I don't plan on seing the film, but I know the general premise is that they
are arseholes who get taught a lesson and re-evaluate themselves. Their use
of the "retard" word just goes to show how out of touch they are.
Oh and protesting about it will certainly do one thing - gve it more
publicity. And not get the studio to take it off release.
2008/8/18 <cliffmonka at alaska.net>
> Hiya ok here's a tv news story and daily news article from the protest
> boycotting
> the film Tropic Thunder we did on saturday,Peace,Cliff
>
> http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8853261
>
> http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html
>
>
> > http://www.adn.com/arts/story/496381.html
> >
> >
> >> Terrific article by Tim Shriver...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *What 'Tropic Thunder' Thinks Is Funny*
> >> By Timothy Shriver
> >> Monday, August 11, 2008; A15
> >>
> >> I've been told = to keep my sense of humor about the film "Tropic
> Thunder,"
> >> which opens = this week. Despite my requests, I have not been given the
> chance
> >> to see = the movie. But I've seen previews, read about it and read
> excerpts = of
> >> the script. By all accounts, it is an unchecked assault on the =
> humanity of
> >> people with intellectual disabilities -- an affront to = dignity, hope
> and
> >> respect.
> >>
> >> Consider this exchange:
> >>
> >> Ben = Stiller's character: "There were times when I was doing Jack when
> = I
> >> actually felt retarded. Like really retarded."
> >>
> >> Robert Downey = Jr.'s character: "Oh yeah. Damn."
> >>
> >> Stiller: "In a weird way, I had = to sort of just free myself up to
> believe
> >> that it was okay to be stupid = or dumb."
> >>
> >> Downey: "To be a moron."
> >>
> >> Stiller: "Yeah."
> >>
> >> At= another point, about acting like a person with intellectual
> disabilities,<=
> >> BR>they say:
> >>
> >> Stiller: "It's what we do, right?"
> >>
> >> Downey: = "Everybody knows you never do a full retard."
> >>
> >> Stiller: "What do you = mean?"
> >>
> >> Downey: "Check it out. Dustin Hoffman, 'Rain Man,' look = retarded, act
> >> retarded, not retarded. Count toothpicks to your cards. = Autistic,
> sure. Not
> >> retarded. You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' Slow, = yes. Retarded,
> maybe.
> >> Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off = Nixon and won a
> ping-pong
> >> competition. That ain't retarded. You went = full retard, man. Never go
> full
> >> retard."
> >>
> >> I worked with the = Farrelly brothers on a film on this topic. I know
> about
> >> edgy comedy. = I'm also told that movies are equal-opportunity
> offenders.
> >>
> >> So = here's an equal-opportunity response to the equal-opportunity
> offenders:
> >> People with intellectual disabilities are routinely abused, neglected,=
> >> insulted, institutionalized and even killed around the world. Their =
> parents
> >> are told to give up, that their children are worthless. Schools = turn
> them
> >> away. Doctors refuse to treat them. Employers won't hire = them. None of
> this
> >> is funny.
> >>
> >> For centuries, they have been the = exception to the most basic
> spiritual
> >> principle: that we are each equal = in spirit, capable of reflecting the
> >> goodness of the divine, carriers = of love. But not people with
> intellectual
> >> disabilities. What's a word = commonly applied to them? Hopeless.
> >>
> >> Let's consider where we are in = 2008. Our politics are about overcoming
> >> division, our social movements = are about ending intolerance, our great
> >> philanthropists promote ending = poverty and disease among the world's
> poor.
> >> Are people with intellectual= disabilities included in the mainstream of
> >> these movements? For the = most part, no.
> >>
> >> Why? Because they're different. Their joy doesn't = fit on magazine
> covers.
> >> Their spirituality doesn't come in self-help = television. Their kind of
> >> wealth doesn't command political attention. = (The best of the spirit
> never
> >> does.)
> >>
> >> Sadly, they're such an easy = target that many people don't realize whom
> they
> >> are making fun of when = they use the word "retard." Most people just
> think
> >> it's funny. "Stupid, = idiot, moron, retard." Ha, ha, ha.
> >>
> >> I know: I could be too sensitive.= But I was taught that mean isn't
> funny.
> >> And I've been to institutions = where people with intellectual
> disabilities
> >> are tied to beds or lie on = concrete floors, forgotten. I've heard
> doctors
> >> say they won't treat = them. I know Gallup found that more than 60
> percent of
> >> Americans don't = want a person with an intellectual disability at their
> >> child's = school.
> >>
> >> I've talked to people with intellectual disabilities who = cry over
> being
> >> insulted on a bus. I've received too many e-mails from = people who are
> >> devastated not by their child's disability but by the = terror of being
> >> laughed at, excluded and economically devastated.
> >> It wasn't funny when Hollywood humiliated African Americans for a
> >> gener= ation. It's never funny when good and decent human beings are
> >> humiliated= . In fact, it is dangerous and disgusting.
> >>
> >> This film is all that = and more. DreamWorks went so far as to create a
> >> mini-version of Simple = Jack and posted it online. The studio has since
> >> pulled it down, = realizing it had gone too far, even in an age of edgy,
> >> R-rated = comedies.
> >>
> >> So, enough. Stop the hurtful jokes. Talk to your children = about
> language
> >> that is bullying and mean. Ask your friends, your = educators, your
> religious
> >> leaders to help us to end the stubborn myth = that people with
> intellectual
> >> disabilities are hopeless. Ask Hollywood = to get on the right side of
> >> dignity.
> >>
> >> I hope others will join me = in shutting this movie out of our lives and
> our
> >> pocketbooks. We don't = live in times when labeling and humiliating
> others is
> >> funny. And we = should send that message far and wide.
> >>
> >> *The writer is chairman of = Special Olympics and a columnist for
> >> washingtonpost.com's On Faith = discussion site.*
> >>
> >>
> >>> It's received mostly good reviews:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/tropicthunder
> >>>
> >>> That's a great website, btw.
> >>>
> >>> -Oliver
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> folk devil wrote:
> >>>> not sure i really want to....too many 'war' films...and a haha to bang
> >>>> bang doesn't really work for me at the mo..
> >>>>
> >>>> /"/
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:42:20 -0700
> >>>> From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT Boycott the film Tropic Thunder
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone seen the movie yet?
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>> I don't want to /sail //in this Ship Of Fools...!' /
> >>>>
> >>>>
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