[kj] (no subject)

[ade]

Christ on a bike, I think the Editors are pure evil! Very Bunnymen, as you say. I'm sure that Curtis-esque
vocal isn't his real range! Really, I only like what I like & it sorta disgusts me when I hear the copying!
On reflection, I'd say that's my prejudices talking, but I normally come 'round if I really like something...

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
Sent: 28 April 2008 23:19
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)



You know, I don't have that much of a problem with lifting a sound in principle. If I really like a style of music, chances are my obsessive compulsive tendencies aren't going to be satisfied by what the template band are able to produce anyway. I can appreciate that the copyists aren't necessarily at the same level, but I can still derive pleasure from their output. The older I get the more I recognise as musical rip-offs anyway - "Lights", from Editors' "Back Room" (to pluck another band accused of Joy Division plagiarism) is so clearly an Echo & The Bunnymen track that it doesn't even bear mentioning. However, I (sort of) like Joy Division, so Interpol & Editors (among many, many others) resonate on some level with me. I can go and see them live, at least, although listening to Interpol in the comfort of my own home avoids having to tolerate Dengler's spivviness. It occurs to me that Interpol, at least, are guiltier of ripping off Martin Hannett's involvement with Joy Division than of pastiching Joy Division themselves. With regard to the vocal style, you sing with what you've got - I don't suppose Mr Interpol could any more sing like Tiny Tim than Jaz could sing like an industrial mincer - oh, hang on...

 

KJ have their own copyists, from 1919 onwards, who I can also enjoy. Play Dead's "Break", for example, has a killer riff I could easily imagine Geordie coming up with. There's too much shit music around to reject the stuff at least inspired by music of value.

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: 28 April 2008 19:43
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

 

Ain't that the point - this isn't about originality, because that can't be done - humanity learns by copying, memes, etc. But there's no excuse for a band, such as rubbish like Interpol, to lift their material so much that it's just a fucking cringe-fest. "Oh, I like Joy Division, I know, I'll pretend to sing like Ian Curtis."

 

What shite!!!

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 28 April 2008 17:18
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

and much of what i hear are replicas, not people working from other's ideas..


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From: bettedillinger at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:19:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

Just my two cents......
Everything is related, and every musician starts out as a fan.  I mean, Coleman and BPF were members of a Reggae band before KJ.  You can't make that stuff up!
 
So I guess that means nothing is "new and fresh".  However, today's current environment encourages homogenization, which is a completely different animal, IMHO.  But everything is
subject to.....
CHANGE!!!!!!!
-Bette




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From: sneakypete at uwclub.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:26:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

Its always been like that though, hasn't it ?

 

I can think of very few bands that have come along who have truly 

sounded like noithing else

 

Peter

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 25 April 2008 16:27
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] (no subject)

Funny how, when a 'new' band is mentioned, they're related to one from the past...

 


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