[kj] Advice on picking up guitar

Phillipps Marc Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
Tue Sep 25 11:02:35 EDT 2007



>I first started with a Tokai cheap and nasty guitar


These days Tokai produce some very nice guitars . . I have always quite fancied one of their "Love Rock" Les Paul copies



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brian Whitehead
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:49
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I first started with a Tokai cheap and nasty guitar and as I couldn't afford an 'real' amp I used an old baby monitor amp (it was the late 70s). It wasn't very loud but it had an absolutely fantastic distorted sound. Learnt Requiem on that guitar and my mates girlfriend used to call me Geordie which I absolutely loved.

Them wer t'days.

Brian.


On 25/09/2007, Phillipps Marc < Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> wrote:



>the quality of 'budget' instruments is generally pretty high so you can get something relatively cheap that won't be a total

>dog to play


When I think back to some of my earlier guitars I am amazed I stuck with learning . . .

The quality of cheap guitars these days is really rather good in comparison, I think someone must've realised not all learners want a guitar with an action you can park a bus under and the sound of an asthmatic owl





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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> [mailto: gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: 25 September 2007 15:04
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what is advantageous to a beginner nowadays is the quality to price ratio.
the quality of 'budget' instruments is generally pretty high so you can get something relatively cheap that won't be a total dog to play.
I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to buy a gleaming turd


Ooh! gleaming turds...! [sounds of entrepreneurial cogs starting to tick]



On 25 Sep 2007, at 14:45, Phillipps Marc wrote:



>All the better players claim that their ability comes from their hands and not their specific guitar.


Whilst I wouldn't class myself a "better" player I can agree with that statement . . as mentioned before I have quiet a few guitars these days, my main electric is still a battered old Squier Telecaster though, it just feels better than the rest



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Christof hamille
Sent: 25 September 2007 14:39
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My advice is to buy an acoustic. If your motivation to play is driven by the equipment in your hand then you will never be a proper player. Yes electric is easier top play. But if you don't like playing why go buy a $800+ electric that will collect dust. Plus by playing acoustic first your fingers will get in better shape, faster, so when you switch to electric it will be a breeze.

All the better players claim that their ability comes from their hands and not their specific guitar.



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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:37:57 +0100
From: Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
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>Conflicting advice. Hrm….what would Jimmy Page do…


Take a shitload of drugs and bugger a groupie with a shark I think



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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 25 September 2007 09:16
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Cheers FP & SMan.




Conflicting advice. Hrm….what would Jimmy Page do…






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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of fatpotanga
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2007 6:16 p.m.
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Without question I'd go acoustic, nylon strung.

a) it's cheap so if you decide you hate it then no worries

b) can't think of b

c) nylon strings will go easy on your fingers

d) you can play/practice when or wherever you want to without expecting it to sound like some rock god

e) all you have to worry about is learning chords, not sounds/volume & 'trying it distorted'

f) harder to play? Bull. All you'll stat off with are open chords around the nut. It'll help your technique & strengthen & toughen your fingers gradually.

g) there are a few electric players I know who can't play an acoustic to save their life. Mark Mynett for one used to be like that.

h) i also feel you have to 'earn your stripes'. My dad's a phenomenal player & when I wanted a guitar aged 9 he bought me a crappy old nylon string & said 'learn to play that & I'll get you an electric'




my totally biased opinion, but i wholeheartedly believe in it :)




flamenco-potanga








On 25 Sep 2007, at 03:13, Brendan wrote:





When I finally get around to it, what do you think I should get, an

acoustic or an electric? Was reading this guy Ed Roman's website, he

styles himself as a guitar expert, he reckons not to get a cheap heap of

shit because you won't be motivated to play it if it looks ugly and sounds

crap. This section of his website has a bunch of rants that I found

interesting, the one on beginner guitars and 'christmas guitars' in

particular:




http://www.edroman.com/rants.htm <http://www.edroman.com/rants.htm>




He also recommends an electric because it's easier to play, but then

that's where most of his $ comes from too I suppose. I dunno much at all

about guitars.




Any feedback appreciated.




Brendan





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