[kj] OT- Alex, Johnny speaks of the Ramones

[Alexander Smith]

Agreed. The Stooges' three records still sound feral and loose  
(pardon the pun) and exciting (wish I could say the same about THE  
WEIRDNESS, but alas -- can't).

By the time I first heard the New York Dolls, I'd already heard the  
legions of crappy metal bands they'd inspired, thus they didn't sound  
as seismic as I'd read. I suppose in the dull, grey doldrums of the  
early 1970s, they probably sounded pretty revolutionary, though.

Alex in NYC



On Sep 22, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Tim Bucknall wrote:


> the Stooges stuff has def  stood the test of time better than the  

> dolls stuff , which sounds very dated

>

> but the stooges stuff sounds totally contemporary

>

>

> On 21/09/2007, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Kiss were *HUGELY* influenced by the `Dolls, there's no denying it  

> (Peter Criss was also friends with some of them). But I think the  

> Punks cite the `Dolls more for their spectacle-laden aesthetic,  

> their "in your face" attitude and their style of playing, which  

> accented energy and aggression over musicianship and finesse.

>

>

> But yeah, no Stooges = no Punk Rock.

>

>

> For his part, Johnny Rotten cites Alice Cooper as a massive  

> influence (and even wrote the `Coop's liner notes on his box set of  

> a few years back).

>

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Neil Perry wrote:

>

>> Nah, not me (not that I'm an 'original' punk...)

>>

>> I always presumed the first 'punk' band, in terms of a musical

>> style/nihilistic attitude, was The Stooges. Don't really count

>> the NY Dolls, but then never really rated them - to me if they

>> influenced anyone it was Kiss (which is another gulf between

>> US/UK perceptions).

>>

>> Why did the Sex Pistols cover 'No Fun'? The Stooges were 'punk'  

>> before the

>> term/movement/whatever had been coined/invented.

>>

>> N

>>

>>

>> Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com > wrote:

>> Are all the original brit-punks this easily offended?

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: iPat

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:23:11 AM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] OT- Alex, Johnny speaks of the Ramones

>>

>>

>> thats what gets peoples back up when it comes down to it, this rather

>> patronising attitude.

>>

>> >

>> > Anyway, my money's on the Brits.

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