[kj] OT- Alex, Johnny speaks of the Ramones
Alexander Smith
vassifer at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 21 12:08:46 EDT 2007
Kiss were *HUGELY* influenced by the `Dolls, there's no denying it
(Peter Criss was also friends with some of them). But I think the
Punks cite the `Dolls more for their spectacle-laden aesthetic, their
"in your face" attitude and their style of playing, which accented
energy and aggression over musicianship and finesse.
But yeah, no Stooges = no Punk Rock.
For his part, Johnny Rotten cites Alice Cooper as a massive influence
(and even wrote the `Coop's liner notes on his box set of a few years
back).
Alex in NYC
On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Neil Perry wrote:
> Nah, not me (not that I'm an 'original' punk...)
>
> I always presumed the first 'punk' band, in terms of a musical
> style/nihilistic attitude, was The Stooges. Don't really count
> the NY Dolls, but then never really rated them - to me if they
> influenced anyone it was Kiss (which is another gulf between
> US/UK perceptions).
>
> Why did the Sex Pistols cover 'No Fun'? The Stooges were 'punk'
> before the
> term/movement/whatever had been coined/invented.
>
> N
>
>
> Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Are all the original brit-punks this easily offended?
>
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>
> thats what gets peoples back up when it comes down to it, this rather
> patronising attitude.
>
> >
> > Anyway, my money's on the Brits.
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