[kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

[Brendan Quinn]

Stones' 'security guards' killing the guy on stage.? 

 

The story behind the Nirvana song Polly:

 

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2715

 

Sports can be used as a pretext for violence just like anything else, it
doesn't mean there is anything inherently violent about them. Correlation
does not prove causality.would anyone agree with me on that?

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 4:13 a.m.
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

 

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't recall anyone getting "nearly castrated" for
wearing an Exploited t-shirt at a Ozric Tentacles show or anything like
that.

 

Alex in NYC

 

 

 

On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:





Oh Alex, you are in a foul mood today arent you? Go and have a game of
frisbee or something or go for  a jog on the park , or is that considered to
be too sports like ?
    Its not only sports fans that are tribal and confront people from other
tribes , music fans also do this .


 
 
 
 
 

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:31:39 -0400

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Celtic fan vs Dida attack

> 

> Need I say more? Sports fans = fucking idiots.

> 

> Alex in NYC

> 

> 

> 

> On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:37 AM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

> 

> > [Here's something related: Texas Longhorns fan "nearly castrated" 

> > by angry Oklahoma fan in Okla bar -- and the guy who "almost 

> > castrated" the Texas fan is a church deacon and Army vet, to boot, 

> > according to article. - Oliver]

> >

> >

> > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hYCD4Gu5sgpDRm3qzPcAyhDNNLDQ

> >

> >

> > Football Rivalry at Center of Bar Fight

> > By SEAN MURPHY - Sep 11, 2007

> >

> > OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - To some Oklahoma football fans, there are 

> > things that just aren't done in the heart of Sooner Nation, and one 

> > of them is to walk into a bar wearing a Texas Longhorns T-shirt.

> >

> > That's exactly what touched off a bloody skirmish that left a Texas- 

> > shirt-wearing fan nearly castrated and an Oklahoma fan facing 

> > aggravated assault charges that could put him in prison for up to 

> > five years.

> >

> > The shocking case has set off a raging debate in this football- 

> > crazed region about the extreme passions behind a bitter rivalry. 

> > Some legal observers have even questioned whether this case could 

> > ever truly have an impartial jury.

> >

> > "I've actually heard callers on talk radio say that this guy 

> > deserved what he got for wearing a Texas T-shirt into a bar in the 

> > middle of Sooner country," said Irven Box, an attorney in this city 

> > 20 miles from Oklahoma's campus in Norman.

> >

> > According to police, 32-year-old Texas fan Brian Christopher Thomas 

> > walked into Henry Hudson's Pub on June 17 wearing a Longhorns T- 

> > shirt and quickly became the focus of football "trash talk" from 

> > another regular, 53-year-old Oklahoma fan Allen Michael Beckett.

> >

> > Thomas told police that when he decided to leave and went to the 

> > bar to pay his tab, Beckett grabbed him in the crotch, pulled him 

> > to the ground and wouldn't let go, even as bar patrons tried to 

> > break it up. When the two men were separated, Thomas looked down 

> > and realized the extent of his injuries.

> >

> > "He could see both of his testicles hanging on the outside of his 

> > body," said Thomas' attorney, Carl Hughes. "He was wearing a pair 

> > of white shorts, which made it that much worse."

> >

> > It took more than 60 stitches to close the wound, and police 

> > interviewed Thomas at a nearby hospital emergency room.

> >

> > Beckett's attorney, Billy Bock, concedes that his client commented 

> > about Thomas' shirt, but said it was just good-natured ribbing and 

> > that he apologized to Thomas when it appeared to upset the Texas 

> > fan. Later, Bock said Thomas approached his client at the bar and 

> > threatened him.

> >

> > "My client is a little man, and this guy (Thomas) is 30 to 40 

> > pounds bigger than him," Bock said. "He's bigger, stronger, younger 

> > and probably faster, and he aggressively leaned in and touched my 

> > client and threatened to beat him up. ... My guy was defending 

> > himself and just took control of the situation."

> >

> > Thomas' attorney disputes Beckett's version.

> >

> > "That's total malarkey," Hughes said. "My client never said a word 

> > to him. He got up to pay and when he paid and left a tip, the guy 

> > grabbed him."

> >

> > Beckett, a 53-year-old church deacon, federal auditor and former 

> > Army combat veteran, has pleaded not guilty. His next court 

> > appearance comes Oct. 4, two days before the Sooners and Horns 

> > tangle in their annual football game at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas.

> >

> > Thomas, who once lived in Houston and became a Texas fan during the 

> > heyday of star running back Earl Campbell, is still recovering from 

> > his injuries but has returned to work as a meat cutter at a Sam's 

> > Club warehouse store.

> >

> > Like Beckett and Thomas, many fans of the two college squads never 

> > attended either university, but have come to identify so closely 

> > with these teams that they attach banners to their cars, wear team 

> > colors on game day and even have programmed their car horns to play 

> > school fight songs.

> >

> > Dallas police Sgt. Andy Harvey, a 12-year veteran of the force, 

> > said it's not uncommon for fights to break out between fans of the 

> > two schools.

> >

> > "People are passionate about their teams and their universities, 

> > and that's a good thing," he said, "but when you mix a real 

> > passionate sports fan and then get a little alcohol in there, 

> > sometimes it's not a good mix."

> >

> > On both Texas and Oklahoma fan Web sites, boosters trade familiar 

> > tales of having their car tires slashed or windshields smashed for 

> > sporting the opposing team's sticker in enemy territory.

> >

> > Assistant District Attorney Scott Rowland said the rivalry will 

> > have no bearing on the way the case is prosecuted.

> >

> > "It appears that it played a part in the fight," he said, "but that 

> > won't play any more of a role in our handling of the case than 

> > would a fight over a girl or a car or a song on the jukebox."

> > Hosted by Google

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Alexander Smith wrote:

> > > No it doesn't. The appreciation of music isn't enforced and 

> > ingrained into the fragile minds of the young by educational 

> > institutions in as nearly a potent and MANDATORY a fashion as 

> > sports are.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Flight Bringer wrote:

> > >

> > >> Music has more responsibility for "fucking up American society" 

> > than what sports does , plus having a Country full of fuckwits 

> > doesn't help...........

> > >>

> > >>

> >

> >

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