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[GREG SLAWSON]

And, fascist North Korea also call themselves Communist, and Peter West probably believes it, but then again he's a brain-dead zombie> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:09:05 -0500> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] . . Clutch/Homies> > Slavery is a legal & formal system designating a class of humans as not > privy to the same rights of others, transformed into personal property, > and utilized for their labor power by owners. Debt bondage, like when > foreigners pay smugglers to get into the US, and who are then corralled > into underground sweatshops, and then told they have to work in subhuman > conditions to pay off their debts to their benevolent masters -- but > which they can never do as insubordination, being late, taking breaks, > etc., accrues more fines and thus more indebtedness -- is also > pejoratively a type of slavery.> > In the current American system the government used to be able to > requisition human labor at gun point, until recently. That was called > the draft. In Israel this still occurs. Also, in the US, when a union > strikes, the President can invoke an emergency procedure to break the > strike and force the workers to go back to work. If they don't, they are > fined every day from then on that they miss. It was heavily debated in > the US in World War 2 that if the US govt. could draft soldiers, why > could they not draft civilian workers, too? You know, to make airplanes > and tanks and stuff.> > As I understand communism, the means of production [physical > infrastructure] are owned in common and their administration can be > ceded to democratically elected councils. In slavery, the means of > production are human beings, and are the property of others.> > Some folks lazily call any kind of unjust servitude "communism," or > "fascism," or anything else, but that's just demagoguery and has as much > veracity as North Korea calling itself democratic.> > Probably the truest types of slaves in the US now are folks who work in > prisons for private corporations who outsource their labor to inmates, > displacing the jobs of free citizens. Is that communism? It's capitalism.> > -Oliver> > > Flight Bringer wrote:> > Is there any difference between slavery and communism Greg?> > If the principles of slavery are not exactly the same as the > > principles of Communism, then they must be very similar> >> > _______________________________________________> Gathering mailing list> Gathering at misera.net> http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
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