[kj] Johnny Depp/Dave Vanian

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Tue Nov 13 16:18:50 EST 2007


Apparently when Johnny Depp goes to the middle east he forces Muslim women
to dress like Dave Vanian...under their burkas.


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> "Of course, on this list that became "BWAHAHA! YOU THINK DAVE VANIAN >

> SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK IN HIS HAIR? OMG LOLOLOL!!"

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> That isnt the case at all is it B.S. , once again you are moving the

> goal posts . One person made a jovial comment about the streak of hair

> and you are implying that the whole list meant it seriously . You are

> just trying to cover you ass by making false claims

> Also you did imply that Vanian should sue Depp because he copied his

> style and this style also included the hair streak , so what you said

> above isn't too far from the truth , what you DID say was that "DAVE

> VANIAN SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK IN HIS

> HAIR.....and their similar clothes"

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>> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:46:43 -0600> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>> To: gathering at misera.net> Subject: Re: [kj] Johnny Depp/Dave Vanian> > I

>> agree, overall.> > This skit with King Buzzo trying to buy a house with

>> the influence he'd > had on multi-million dollar-making artists came at

>> a time when Nirvana > and L7 were both in the Top 20 and seemed to

>> regularly wear Melvins > t-shirts on national TV, or name-drop the band

>> in interviews. Nirvana's > famous SNL show had them wearing a Melvins

>> shirt, even, IIRC. It was > enough in those days for Nirvana to simply

>> wear a band's shirt (Flipper) > on TV to prompt that band to either

>> reform or suddenly get press > attention/back catalogue reprints they'd

>> never had before.> > Also, I'd like to be clear the whole point I

>> brought this up was: 1) > Damn, look how much Johnny Depp looks like

>> Dave Vanian in this new film; > 2) I looked into it further, and

>> thought, 'Wow, this is really weird; > here's a side by side

>> comparison.' Given Depp routinely borrows others' > personae, it's hard

>> to dismiss this as coincidence; 3) If that is so, > wouldn't it be nice

>> if Vanian got credited or even some residuals, given > that The Damned

>> have influenced bands that went on to make a lot more > $$$ than them?

>> And then I showed one hypothetical way it could be done, > though I

>> agreed Vanian was too modest to probably do any such thing > anyway.

>> (They didn't seem to care about the "Life Goes On" and "Eightes" >

>> similarities, after all, unlike a certain other band, who cared about a

>> > song's similarity.)> > Of course, on this list that became "BWAHAHA!

>> YOU THINK DAVE VANIAN > SHOULD SUE JOHNNY DEPP BECAUSE HE HAS A STREAK

>> IN HIS HAIR? OMG LOLOLOL!!"> > > -Oliver> > > > > Alexander Smith

>> wrote:> > Come now -- The influence of the Melvins is in absolutely no

>> way > > comparable to the influence of the Damned.> >> > Alex in NYC> >>

>> > On Nov 13, 2007, at 2:39 PM, B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:> >> >> Another

>> hugely influential band have been The Melvins. That influence > >>

>> hasn't translated into money.> >>> >> To wit: There was an old show on

>> MTV where King Buzzo of The Melvins > >> took around a suitcase full of

>> newspaper clippings of bands like > >> Nirvana who name checked them as

>> being really influential. He asked > >> realtors to give him a tour of a

>> mansion he was thinking of buying, > >> stating he was a well-known

>> music star. At the end of the house tour, > >> Buzzo declared, "I'll buy

>> it!" The realtor looked excited. Buzzo > >> opened his suitcase of

>> newspaper/magazine clippings, and said, "Here > >> -- I'd like to pay

>> you with my musical influence on people!"> >>> >> The joke was, yeah, he

>> apparently was influential to a lot of > >> good-selling bands, but had

>> little money to show for it, so he was > >> going to see if he could

>> cash in his cred for the house. The realtor > >> was not amused. I

>> thought it was hilarious.> >>> >> -Oliver> >>> >>> >> Alexander Smith

>> wrote:> >>>> >>> The Damned have already well earned their place in the

>> annals of > >>> rock history, let alone the pantheon of Punk Rock greats

>> (first > >>> British Punk band to issue an album). Their influence is

>> massive, > >>> and they're constantly name-checked in otherwise foreign

>> quarters -- > >>> in the latest issue of MOJO, Jimmy Page admits to

>> being blown away > >>> by the Damned. Sting continually cites "New Rose"

>> as an all-time > >>> fave and Nick Mason of the `Floyd even produced

>> their second album. > >>> If it's one thing the Damned haven't really

>> been, it's ignored.> >>>> >>> I could be completely wrong, but I really

>> doubt that Dave gives a > >>> fuck about his look being appropriated.

>> And I can't think of a > >>> single working musician -- save possibly

>> Sioux, and she's well over > >>> it -- who'd want to take credit for the

>> Goth aesthetic.> >>>> >>> Alex in NYC> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

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