[kj] grinderman

n0153 jr nomeanswhat at gmail.com
Fri Mar 9 00:26:26 EST 2007


Hey man!
As I said, I gave it a listen and nothing caught my attention... he
has done far better stuff with both the Bad Seeds or The Birthday
Party... it all sounded very unnatural to me... very very fake... and
those guitars, IMO, are godawful!

You might find it curious, but off the whole album Electric Alice was
the one I liked the least!

IMO, the album reeks of pretentiousness, lack of spirit and, above
all, lack of inspiration....

but, as was said before, this is only one man's opinion!


jr

On 3/8/07, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> jr, in all honesty, the album aint that bad! (my opinion of course!) i am no

> 'follower' of Cave, but have enjoyed quite a few albums since i first heard

> 'the first born is dead'.

> listen to the whole new album THREE times, and then make your final

> judgement!

> i am sure you should like at least one track..

>

> as Janean said earlier, Electric Alice is a fine, fine tune..

>

> =)

>

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> On 3/9/07, n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I kinda agree with you, Alex.

> > He has put out good stuff back in the days... up until Let Love In his

> > body of work was almost perfect (you gotta hate Foi Na Cruz).

> > But, like many a musician before him, mr. Cave seem to have lost it...

> > this new Grinderman project sounds terrible, laughable even IMO. It

> > sounds too artificial to be even considered as something serious...

> > stuff kids do and upload to myspace to get some attention... you know,

> > many bands seem to have kept some sort of brilliance after a long

> > time... you get the two last releases by Mission of Burma and KJ to

> > see what I mean (I know you detest Hosannas, me, I place it above

> > Pandemonium), but some seem to lose it permanently... to me, Nick Cave

> > is in the latter category... I know he still gathers a considerable

> > flock of followers who sling stones at those who dare talk down the

> > "loverman"... but I couldn't care less... to me, he's a has-been.

> >

> > jr

> >

> >

> >

> > On 3/8/07, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yeah, I too hated NO MORE SHALL WE PART... but I'll always give the man

> a fair listen. He's got a big enough body of quality work behind him to back

> up whatever project he's working on.

> > >

> > > Alex in NYC

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >From: n0153 jr <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>

> > > >Sent: Mar 8, 2007 5:32 PM

> > > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> > > >Subject: Re: [kj] grinderman

> > > >

> > > >That's one man's opinion you got that right... that is why I, when was

> > > >talking down the worshiped moustached crooner, made sure to include a

> > > >"IMHO".

> > > >I just don't happen to drool over people due to their past alone... to

> > > >me, in my opinion which is mine and I developed it all by myself and

> > > >that's why I call it mine, the very last interesting album Nick Cave

> > > >put out was No More Shall We Part... from there on, gosh oh gosh...

> > > >crap after crap...

> > > >Call it quits, skinny man!

> > > >

> > > >jr

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >On 3/8/07, Darth E. Vader <crackedmachine at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> --- n0153 jr < nomeanswhat at gmail.com> wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> > Is it better than the last one? To me there is no

> > > >> > Nick Cave and there are no

> > > >> > Bad Seeds without Blixa...

> > > >> > Abattoir Blues proves my point.

> > > >>

> > > >> How?

> > > >> The album exists

> > > >>

> > > >> therefore the Bad Seeds exist minus Blixa

> > > >>

> > > >> I suppose the DVD I haven't yet watched will be blank

> > > >> then?

> > > >>

> > > >> Seems more like the kind of thing FM Einheit might get

> > > >> up to!

> > > >>

> > > >> It's a good thing

> > > >> > that he is now going under

> > > >> > this new name... the Bad Seeds are done with, IMHO.

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> > On 3/7/07, Janean Lancaster

> > > >> > <Janean.Lancaster at hopwood.ac.uk> wrote:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Yep, it's a great album. Electric Alice is the

> > > >> > real standout for me - so

> > > >> > > unlike anything he's done before - really love

> > > >> > that track.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Cheers,

> > > >> > > Janean

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >> > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > > >> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > > >> > > On Behalf Of Mike Cooper

> > > >> > > Sent: 06 March 2007 22:26

> > > >> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> > > >> > band!)

> > > >> > > Subject: Re: [kj] grinderman

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > in case there are any Nick Cave other than me and

> > > >> > Steve H - got the

> > > >> > > Grinderman CD yesterday and it is sensational.

> > > >> > Love it to bits already

> > > >> > > and

> > > >> > > for me up there with ANYTHING he has done before.

> > > >> > Gonna be hard to hear a

> > > >> > > better album all year. Go buy.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > >> > > From: "fatpotanga" < fatpotanga at gmail.com>.

> > > >> > Subject: Re: [kj] "Universe B"

> > > >> > > lyrics?

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > On 6/3/07 10:11, "Lennonka" wrote:

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > > that the product of my listening

> > > >> > > would be like fatpotanga's version

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > What was wrong with mine?

> > > >> > > Dictated to me by Jazzz himself it was =:¬)

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I had a serious stab at deciphering them before

> > > >> > but gave up after line 3 &

> > > >> > > the unholy pirates wandering across his deserts.

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > >

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