[kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

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i see your point,but i still feel like this is a prime example of bands becoming a
parody of their former selves.

> AC/DC

> Motorhead

> The Ramones (when they were around)

> and countless others have been doing it the same and are still incredible.

> There is nothing wrong with sticking to what you know and like.

> There is a difference between that and going through the motions. Which a

> lot more people do just to stay in the limelight (or lack thereof).

>

> Chris

>

>

>>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

>>Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:18:36 -0400

>>

>>

>>

>>I disagree. There's nothing wrong w/sticking to something that you do well

>>or that you like as long as people get off on it. Bands like the Buzzcocks

>>have been playing the exact same stuff for 30 years, and it wasn't until

>>the 90s that the world finally started to catch up to them. Some

>>musicains--Dizzy Gillespie,, for example--start something groundbreaking

>>and stick to it for decades. Others--George Jones, Ralph Stanley, who both

>>are still on the road after over 50 years of touring--were always trad and

>>stayed that way. Other artists--the Clash, Beatles, Miles Davis--change,

>>sometimes for better or worse. For ex., the Clash blew me away at the

>>start, but I love "Sandinista" the most, but pretty much hate their last

>>album "Combat Rock". Miles started out trying to copy Dizzy (and he

>>couldn't), invented several types of new music on his own (Cool jazz,

>>electronic jazz, etc.)

>>and slipped off into oblivion (try listening to his last album, "Doo Bop"

>>or something--lame rap and top 40-influenced hip hop). Elvis "Mr. Ego"

>>Costello put out lame new wave, and later even lamer county and jazz and

>>who knows what else. Joe Jackson put out better new wave than Elvis, tried

>>some other (jazzy, etc.) stuff, and a couple of years ago returned to his

>>original new wave sound and put out a nice album. The 3rd member of the

>>sound-alike trilogy, Graham Parker, never had the success of the other two,

>>but continues to make solid albums that sound just as good as the ones he

>>did 30 years ago (check out "Songs of No Consequence" for a recent

>>masterpiece). Just because you try something new doesn't mean it's better.

>>I'll pay to see 80 something year old Ralph Stanley sing any day (and last

>>time I saw him 2 years ago he nearly blew the roof off the theater, and

>>he's only about 5 feet tall)!!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>From: cliffmonka at alaska.net

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP/film American Hardcore

>>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:42:19 -0800 (AKDT)

>> >I have not heard their new cd,but basically why expect a band to redo

>>what they've

>> >already done years ago,bad brains killing joke or whome ever,it's a cop

>>out to only

>> >have one style and refuse to change.can u imagine,would be like fake as

>> >hell,jukebox live.Freedom for the artists,let's just hope they continue

>>to do what

>> >they love,and love what they do.

>> >

>> >

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>> > > HR was wearing a pretty nice suit during the interview (as he sat

>>on the grass

>> > > with a wedding going on behind him--not very punk rock). As for the

>>change from the

>> > > spastic to mellow, being in your 50s is a lot different from being in

>>your 20s or

>> > > 30s... </DIV>

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>><DIV></DIV>From:  cliffmonka at alaska.net Reply-To:  "A

>> > > list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> >

>> > band!)"<gathering at misera.net> To:  "A list

>>about all

>> > > things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> > > <gathering at misera.net> Subject:  Re: [kj]

>>OT: New Bad

>> > > Brains LP/film American Hardcore Date:  Thu, 28

>>Jun 2007

>> > > 17:18:05 -0800 (AKDT) >Bad Brains & Hr were well spoken

>>in the film

>> > > American Hardcore,well worth a watch >or pick it up on amazon or

>>ebay,i dig

>> > > it,knew the writer of same title book,he >lived in the same town

>>and we use

>> > > to hang out. > > > > > > > > In

>>a message

>> > >

>>dated 6/28/2007 8:28:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > >

>> > > wessidetempest at hotmail.com writes: > > > > I

>>heard  it

>> > > about a month

>> > > back.  It's good...not great.  I think I need

>>to > >

>> > > re-listen.  They really haven't put out a horrible

>> > > record.  The  one on > > Hollywood, or

>>whatever the

>> > > Madonna label was called, was the  weakest. > >

>>They have the

>> > > same problem as the majority of the

>>older,  ground-breaking > >

>> > > bands.  They have a mighty past to live up to. >

>>>

>> > > I  just hope they tour and keep it together to make it

>>through all of

>> > > the > > cities this time. > > It sounds like HR is

>>being more

>> > > reasonable these  days.  But if you've

>>seen > > their

>> > > pics at the final days of CBGB's you  might think otherwise.

>>They

>> > > are > > so good  live. > > > >

>>Chris >

>> > > > > > > > I was at

>> > > the last Bad Brains show at CBGB's- I don't know what is

>>up  with >

>> > > > HR- It seems he kind of spun some persona for himself and forgot

>>to

>>turn

>> > > it > > off- like an actor who never breaks character. My

>>friend roadies

>> > > for them  and I > > keep meaning to ask them what

>>is really up

>> > > with HR- and yeah if HR had it  his > > way he

>>would just be

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