[kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP (and TRBNGR)

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

Had a few listens to the new Bad Brains... gets a "pretty good" rating so 
far... but that's an accomplishment in itself considering what they got to 
live up to . I kinda forget about everything after Quickness though!

What's yer take on the new Turbo album Chris?   Very very average yet again 
for me... still too "nice" a production, but some good songs alongside some 
of the worst they've ever written!    They were still great in London a few 
weeks back though!

Dave in Edinburgh






At 07:28 28/06/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>I heard it about a month back.  It's good...not great.  I think I need to 

>re-listen.  They really haven't put out a horrible record.  The one on 

>Hollywood, or whatever the Madonna label was called, was the weakest.

>They have the same problem as the majority of the older, ground-breaking 

>bands.  They have a mighty past to live up to.

>I just hope they tour and keep it together to make it through all of the 

>cities this time.

>It sounds like HR is being more reasonable these days.  But if you've seen 

>their pics at the final days of CBGB's you might think otherwise. They are 

>so good live.

>

>Chris

>

>listening to the new Turbonegro

>

>

>>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:02:40 -0700 (PDT)

>>

>>The vocals definately stick out like a sore thumb and it's obvious they 

>>tried everything in their power to make them work within the music. 

>>Still, it's a pretty cool mix of hard and soft. If it were some unknown 

>>band, I think I'd be pretty into it. The fact that it's Bad Brains is 

>>probably the biggest reason why the vocals don't sit well. We wanna hear 

>>the classic sound, especially since the other 3 members are dishing it 

>>out effortlessly. Oh well, you can't recreate the past.

>>

>>Leigh

>>

>>

>>

>>----- Original Message ----

>>From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:18:22 PM

>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>

>>

>>I'm not even a Bad Brains fan (although I did see them in Boston a couple 

>>of times back in the day and was glad I went), and I like the new album!! 

>>Just bought it today--pretty impressive for both the thrash and roots reggae...

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>From:  "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>>Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject:  Re: [kj] OT: New Bad Brains LP

>>Date:  Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:31:48 -0500

>> >B. Oliver Sheppard wrote:

>> >>http://mrmagoomc4.blogspot.com/2007/06/pure-love.html

>> >

>> >New Bad Brains album w/ original lineup leaked (free) at that URL

>> >above. Decibel Magazine review below. I agree w/ the Decibel mag

>> >review about HR's vocals tho' I think I liked it better than the

>> >writer does. It has a lot of old-style Bad Brains thrash riffs w/

>> >slow moshy NYHC parts here and there, but HR's vocals aren't as into

>> >it as in the 70s/80s Bad Brains stuff. He sounds like he'd rather be

>> >singing reggae, and the reverb/echo effects on his vocals get old.

>> >Anyway, if you like Bad Brains I think it's a pretty decent album.

>> >

>> >-Oliver

>> >

>> >

>> >http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/jul2007/badbrains.aspx

>> >

>> >Bad Brains

>> >Build a Nation

>> >Megaforce

>> >How high

>> >

>> >In 2001, I saw ?Soul Brains? in Fort Collins, CO. (Madonna owned the

>> >Bad Brains? name at the time.) H.R. wandered onstage in pajama pants

>> >and a heavy parka, and spent most of the set singing into an

>> >arm?s-length Handycam instead of acknowledging the crowd. For an

>> >encore, he sat behind the drums and played a half-assed reggae beat

>> >for a few minutes. The end. That stuff could sorta be forgiven, but

>> >way worse was H.R.?s total lack of interest in any of the hardcore

>> >songs. Shit was more phoned-in than ?Sacred Love.? He was feeling

>> >the reggae jams, though! The loooooong reggae jams. Better than a

>> >mic stand to the skull (hello, Lawrence, KS!), but it was still a

>> >bummer. These guys are unquestionably one of the greatest couple of

>> >bands to come from hardcore, with one of the all-time best frontmen,

>> >and he was not into it at all.

>> >

>> >It?s with that show still in memory that I?m listening to Build a

>> >Nation, which purports to be a return to ROIR-era hardcore glory.

>> >And almost right away, the reason that this is a terrible idea is

>> >spelled out: The fast riff in ?Jah People? would sound amazing with

>> >H.R. spitting a classic hyperspeed vocal over it. He doesn?t?he

>> >croons over the mid-tempo verses. ?Universal Peace? has a vicious

>> >intro, a great fast verse and a totally half-assed vocal. You can

>> >practically hear the rest of the band (and Beastie Boy Adam Yauch in

>> >the producer?s chair) trying their hardest to make a hardcore album

>> >and H.R. completely not giving a fuck. Yauch gives them an overblown

>> >recording (in a good way!) with extra emphasis on Darryl Jenifer?s

>> >bass and lots of weird reverb effects on the vox. Being

>> >professionally obligated not to skip past the reggae songs this

>> >time, I can report that H.R. sounds a little bit like the Beasties?

>> >pal Q-Tip when he?s in mellow mode, and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

>> >huh? There are some cool moments here and there, like the solo that

>> >opens ?Pure Love? and the sick NYHC mosh at the end of ?Send Me No

>> >Flowers.? But ?Flowers,? an update of a Black Dots-era song, really

>> >just serves as a reminder of how completely essential Black Dots is

>> >(if you don?t own it, you need to), and how inessential Build a

>> >Nation is. ?Anthony Bartkewicz

>> >

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