[kj] Killing Joke live bbc ect

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Omega Tribe also named-checked KJ in an early(ish) interview, not really as a musical influence but just as a band they liked.? I think KJ commanded a certain respect among the more intelligent anarchos because they weren't just tagging along to whatever was currently trendy.



KJ always tried to stay out of any of the subsects of punk (or indeed anything). I don't think Jaz could bear to be compared to anyone! <grin>? So of course they variously dissed anarchos, positive punk, goths, tribal bands, etc etc.? And in fairness, they didn't fit into any of those categories, at least not till 84 or later. (John Peel remarked that Eighties sounded like all those bands who tried to sound like Killing Joke.)

Jamie


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From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 5.08pm
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing Joke live bbc ect



For what it's worth, the DVD of _The Day the Country Died: Anarcho-Punk from 1980 - 1984_, dir. by Roy Wallace, recently out on Cherry Red Films, even mentions Killing Joke when Amebix are interviewed. As in the book of the same title by Ian Glasper, the singer of Amebix goes on about seeing Killing Joke at the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament Rally in 1980 at Trafalgar Square impacted the future band tremendously and inspired them to try to make their own noise.?
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I've never thought KJ were anarcho-anything. From what politics I can glean from, say, KJ 2003, for example, it's anti-war, anti-US imperialism, a lot of stuff is anti-corporate ("Money Is Not Our God"), the pics of Nazis saluting the pope in the Spanish Civil War -- and all that's fine with me. But I've read plenty of interviews from the 80s where KJ members basically rail against Crass, et. al. and claim they cynically played the CND gig just to fuck with people (which Amebix singer Rob Miller also relates).?
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I think Simon Reynolds saying KJ leaned close to "fascism," in his book _Rip it Up and Start Again_, is hilarious. But Joy Division dealt with the same stuff.?
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-Oliver?
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Phillipps Marc wrote:?

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> Hi Mel,?

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> I wasn't knocking Oliver just pointing out that KJ's interpretation of > MP3 sharing is probably a little different to old 80's anarcho punks :)?

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