[kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

[Brendan]

Ass-AVOID!!!!!!

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> I did. I ignored it. ;)

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> ASTEROID!!!!!

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>>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

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>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

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>>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

>>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:22:57 +1200 (NZST)

>>

>>There actually IS a direct link to an archetype in the Jungian sense,

>>suprised none of you other hippies noticed.

>>

>>Robert Anton Wilson covers this archetype in Cosmic Trigger Vol 1: Final

>>Secret of the Illuminati, a brilliant read that is a lot more and a lot

>>less out there than the title suggests.

>>

>>He calls the archetype Mescalito, from memory (book is in storage

>>otherwise I'd scan or transcribe the page where he goes into it), the

>>entity that often appears to people under the influence of Peyote (hence

>>Mescalin hence Mescalito), and psilocybin mushrooms. He says the

>> archetype

>>comes through in popular culture in other forms such as the Leprechaun,

>> Dr

>>Spock (!), Peter Pan...from memory. Mischevious and playful, as in your

>>dream.

>>

>>Here's a sample from the book:

>>

>>http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.html

>>

>>Wilson is a must read if you're into the esoteric, conspiracies, science

>>esp physics, politics, sociology, philosophy, economics, utopianism,

>>theology, Crowley, Discordianism, Leary, altered states of consciousness,

>>Joyce...the breadth and depth of his writing is pretty amazing.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> > Maybe the drunk was you? ;)

>> >

>> >

>> >>From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>

>> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>> >>To: gathering at misera.net

>> >>Subject: [kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

>> >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:08:22 +0000

>> >>

>> >>I had a dream the other night about getting ripped off by a guy in a

>>bar.

>> >>My question is: if it’s my dream and this guy is my creation, why

>> didn’t

>> >> I

>> >>see it coming?

>> >>

>> >>In the dream I was having a drink with a friend and this other guy

>> came

>> >>over a bit drunk and got talking to us. He was okay and asked me to

>> lend

>> >>him £5. I did do (which is something I wouldn’t do in real life).

>>Anyway,

>> >> a

>> >>little later he sponged a drink off my friend. I thought, why does he

>> >> need

>> >>to sponge a drink when I’ve already lent him a fiver?

>> >>

>> >>As I was about to put the question to him, he hopped off laughing into

>> >>dreamland and I woke up feeling thoroughly furious at my gullibility,

>>and

>> >>confused about why I had no power in a situation created entirely in

>> my

>> >> own

>> >>head.

>> >>

>> >>Searching for an answer, no matter how New Age, I look to Carl Gustav

>> >> Jung

>> >>– whose theories I fail to understand, but it doesn’t matter. I

>> believe

>> >>this character was some form of archetype with his own will that is

>> not

>> >>subject to mine. He was a sort of mischieveous Irish leprechaun

>> >> archetype.

>> >>W at nker.

>> >>

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