[kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

[folk devil]

I did. I ignored it. ;)

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>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

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>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:22:57 +1200 (NZST)

>

>There actually IS a direct link to an archetype in the Jungian sense,

>suprised none of you other hippies noticed.

>

>Robert Anton Wilson covers this archetype in Cosmic Trigger Vol 1: Final

>Secret of the Illuminati, a brilliant read that is a lot more and a lot

>less out there than the title suggests.

>

>He calls the archetype Mescalito, from memory (book is in storage

>otherwise I'd scan or transcribe the page where he goes into it), the

>entity that often appears to people under the influence of Peyote (hence

>Mescalin hence Mescalito), and psilocybin mushrooms. He says the archetype

>comes through in popular culture in other forms such as the Leprechaun, Dr

>Spock (!), Peter Pan...from memory. Mischevious and playful, as in your

>dream.

>

>Here's a sample from the book:

>

>http://www.rawilson.com/trigger1.html

>

>Wilson is a must read if you're into the esoteric, conspiracies, science

>esp physics, politics, sociology, philosophy, economics, utopianism,

>theology, Crowley, Discordianism, Leary, altered states of consciousness,

>Joyce...the breadth and depth of his writing is pretty amazing.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Maybe the drunk was you? ;)

> >

> >

> >>From: "nicholas fitzpatrick" <gasw30 at hotmail.com>

> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>To: gathering at misera.net

> >>Subject: [kj] OT: Jungian dream analysis

> >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:08:22 +0000

> >>

> >>I had a dream the other night about getting ripped off by a guy in a 

>bar.

> >>My question is: if it’s my dream and this guy is my creation, why didn’t

> >> I

> >>see it coming?

> >>

> >>In the dream I was having a drink with a friend and this other guy came

> >>over a bit drunk and got talking to us. He was okay and asked me to lend

> >>him £5. I did do (which is something I wouldn’t do in real life). 

>Anyway,

> >> a

> >>little later he sponged a drink off my friend. I thought, why does he

> >> need

> >>to sponge a drink when I’ve already lent him a fiver?

> >>

> >>As I was about to put the question to him, he hopped off laughing into

> >>dreamland and I woke up feeling thoroughly furious at my gullibility, 

>and

> >>confused about why I had no power in a situation created entirely in my

> >> own

> >>head.

> >>

> >>Searching for an answer, no matter how New Age, I look to Carl Gustav

> >> Jung

> >>– whose theories I fail to understand, but it doesn’t matter. I believe

> >>this character was some form of archetype with his own will that is not

> >>subject to mine. He was a sort of mischieveous Irish leprechaun

> >> archetype.

> >>W at nker.

> >>

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