[kj] Vinyl mastering?

[Change]

Rubbish argument!

CDs use way more electricity to spin than a record
player so are less environmentally friendly!

--- Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
wrote:


> And to add to that it is a bit ironic that all of

> the stinky/hippy punk kids 

> insist on vinyl.  It cost more to produce, creates

> more waste on the 

> production side and uses petrol.  The blood of the

> government.

> 

> I still buy vinyl

> 

> Chris

> 

> >From: "Christof hamille"

> <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the 

> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >To: gathering at misera.net

> >Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl mastering?

> >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:22:22 -0500

> >

> >Vinyl is not cheap.  No matter how it is done.  In

> theory what should 

> >happen is mastering should be done for each media

> it is going on (vinyl, 

> >cd, cassette/8-track {even though technically it

> should be mastered 

> >differently}, and digital).

> >

> >With the exception of the stereophiles (ala the

> Steve Albini types) people 

> >will master to CD and adjust the levels for vinyl. 

> Sometimes it works but 

> >typically there is little difference and that is a

> shame.  I am not going 

> >to argue which one is better because I don't care. 

> They are just different 

> >mediums taht have different results.

> >

> >I guess you can say it is like drinking wine or

> beer or liquor.  The end 

> >result is getting drunk. But each one goes down

> (and sometimes backup) 

> >differently.

> >

> >Chris

> >

> >

> >>From: "death wish" <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the 

> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>To: gathering at misera.net

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl mastering?

> >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:52:53 +0000

> >>

> >>Since vinyl is a boutique item nowadays, is it a

> given that a vinyl 

> >>pressing is mastered using the same standards from

> back in the days when 

> >>vinyl was dominant? Or, is it possible that some

> stuff is being slapped on 

> >>vinyl, with the audio actually being lifted from

> (and therefore really no 

> >>better than) cd?

> >>

> >>I don't really know anything about the differences

> in the cd and 

> >>vinyl-mastering processes. I'm wondering what sort

> of cost-saving 

> >>corner-cutting is being done, if any.

> >>

> >>Anyone?

> >>

> >>T.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>From: "Tim Bucknall"

> <tim.bucknall at googlemail.com>

> >>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the 

> >>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)" 

> >>><gathering at misera.net>

> >>>Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl

> >>>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:19:02 +0100

> >>>

> >>>theres been a few audiophile Vinyl releases for

> the pistols lately

> >>>i can recommend one called "the complete burton

> on trent recordings" on 

> >>>the

> >>>"get back" label from Italy

> >>>it completely  beats every other cd of that show

> even the cd version of 

> >>>the

> >>>same title (LOL!)

> >>>

> >>>thats partly just because of the lack of care 

> taken over the cd issues 

> >>>of

> >>>the show admittedly

> >>>, but the fact remains the vinyl version trashes

> all the 50 billion cd

> >>>issues i've waded through over the years

> >>>its that really good quality thick heavy virgin

> vinyl too, none of that

> >>>horrible  thin treble-heavy scratchy vinyl  that

> some modern releases 

> >>>have

> >>>

> >>>even on a cheap-ass player its an amazing sound

> >>>also worth mentioning- whoever mastered it took

> the time to correct the

> >>>speed of the masters, which seldom happens with

> Pistols releases

> >>>

> >>>if the extremities vinyl re-issue is done as good

> as this i'll be  over 

> >>>the

> >>>moon

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>On 11/07/07, folk devil

> <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>Rave died in about 96, it's neo-rave now mate ;)

> >>>>What's the quality of these records you're

> buying, out of curiosity??

> >>>>BTW I DO prefer vinyl.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> >From: "B. Oliver Sheppard"

> <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> >>>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing

> Joke (the

> >>>> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>>> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> band!)"

> >>>> ><gathering at misera.net>

> >>>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl

> >>>> >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:55:49 -0500

> >>>> >

> >>>> >I guess this depends on what kind of music

> you're interested in. I 

> >>>>have

> >>>> >zero interest in rave and couldn't tell you a

> thing about it. Mostly I

> >>>>like

> >>>> >hardcore/punk and pretty much any band worth

> its salt in that genre 

> >>>>makes

> >>>> >releases on vinyl; for ex. Austin punk label

> Hardcore Holocaust:

> >>>> >http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com -- or Prank

> records:

> >>>> >http://www.prankrecords.com, just two among

> many I can think of. The

> >>>>older

> >>>> >labels like Dischord and Touch & Go, which

> have moved away from punk,

> >>>>also

> >>>> >still release in vinyl, and always have.

> >>>> >

> >>>> >-Oliver

> >>>> >

> >>>> >

> >>>> >folk devil wrote:

> >>>> >>Vinyl had a renaissance during rave...the

> late 80s thru the mid-90s 

> >>>>was

> >>>>a

> >>>> >>boomtime. However, many labels no longer

> release it, and there isn't

> >>>> >>really much audiophile [virgin] vinyl around

> today. I still release 

> >>>>on

> >>>>it

> >>>> >>myself, but am seriously considering

> releasing CD only from now on, 

> >>>>the

> >>>> >>sale of which is dying out itself due to

> downloading.

> >>>> >>Back to Greenpeace: With the setting up of

> the Stockholm Convention 

> >>>>and

> >>>> >>with the UN banning dioxins will inevitably

> make vinyl production 

> >>>>very

> >>>> >>difficult.

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >>

> >>>> >

> >>>>

> >_______________________________________________

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> 

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