[kj] Vinyl mastering?

[Christof hamille]

And to add to that it is a bit ironic that all of the stinky/hippy punk kids 
insist on vinyl.  It cost more to produce, creates more waste on the 
production side and uses petrol.  The blood of the government.

I still buy vinyl

Chris


>From: "Christof hamille" <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl mastering?

>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:22:22 -0500

>

>Vinyl is not cheap.  No matter how it is done.  In theory what should 

>happen is mastering should be done for each media it is going on (vinyl, 

>cd, cassette/8-track {even though technically it should be mastered 

>differently}, and digital).

>

>With the exception of the stereophiles (ala the Steve Albini types) people 

>will master to CD and adjust the levels for vinyl.  Sometimes it works but 

>typically there is little difference and that is a shame.  I am not going 

>to argue which one is better because I don't care.  They are just different 

>mediums taht have different results.

>

>I guess you can say it is like drinking wine or beer or liquor.  The end 

>result is getting drunk. But each one goes down (and sometimes backup) 

>differently.

>

>Chris

>

>

>>From: "death wish" <dwish2000 at hotmail.com>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl mastering?

>>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:52:53 +0000

>>

>>Since vinyl is a boutique item nowadays, is it a given that a vinyl 

>>pressing is mastered using the same standards from back in the days when 

>>vinyl was dominant? Or, is it possible that some stuff is being slapped on 

>>vinyl, with the audio actually being lifted from (and therefore really no 

>>better than) cd?

>>

>>I don't really know anything about the differences in the cd and 

>>vinyl-mastering processes. I'm wondering what sort of cost-saving 

>>corner-cutting is being done, if any.

>>

>>Anyone?

>>

>>T.

>>

>>

>>

>>>From: "Tim Bucknall" <tim.bucknall at googlemail.com>

>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

>>><gathering at misera.net>

>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl

>>>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:19:02 +0100

>>>

>>>theres been a few audiophile Vinyl releases for the pistols lately

>>>i can recommend one called "the complete burton on trent recordings" on 

>>>the

>>>"get back" label from Italy

>>>it completely  beats every other cd of that show even the cd version of 

>>>the

>>>same title (LOL!)

>>>

>>>thats partly just because of the lack of care  taken over the cd issues 

>>>of

>>>the show admittedly

>>>, but the fact remains the vinyl version trashes all the 50 billion cd

>>>issues i've waded through over the years

>>>its that really good quality thick heavy virgin vinyl too, none of that

>>>horrible  thin treble-heavy scratchy vinyl  that some modern releases 

>>>have

>>>

>>>even on a cheap-ass player its an amazing sound

>>>also worth mentioning- whoever mastered it took the time to correct the

>>>speed of the masters, which seldom happens with Pistols releases

>>>

>>>if the extremities vinyl re-issue is done as good as this i'll be  over 

>>>the

>>>moon

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>On 11/07/07, folk devil <folkdevil_23 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>Rave died in about 96, it's neo-rave now mate ;)

>>>>What's the quality of these records you're buying, out of curiosity??

>>>>BTW I DO prefer vinyl.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> >From: "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>>>> >Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>>> >band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>>> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>>>> ><gathering at misera.net>

>>>> >Subject: Re: [kj] Vinyl

>>>> >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:55:49 -0500

>>>> >

>>>> >I guess this depends on what kind of music you're interested in. I 

>>>>have

>>>> >zero interest in rave and couldn't tell you a thing about it. Mostly I

>>>>like

>>>> >hardcore/punk and pretty much any band worth its salt in that genre 

>>>>makes

>>>> >releases on vinyl; for ex. Austin punk label Hardcore Holocaust:

>>>> >http://www.hardcoreholocaust.com -- or Prank records:

>>>> >http://www.prankrecords.com, just two among many I can think of. The

>>>>older

>>>> >labels like Dischord and Touch & Go, which have moved away from punk,

>>>>also

>>>> >still release in vinyl, and always have.

>>>> >

>>>> >-Oliver

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> >folk devil wrote:

>>>> >>Vinyl had a renaissance during rave...the late 80s thru the mid-90s 

>>>>was

>>>>a

>>>> >>boomtime. However, many labels no longer release it, and there isn't

>>>> >>really much audiophile [virgin] vinyl around today. I still release 

>>>>on

>>>>it

>>>> >>myself, but am seriously considering releasing CD only from now on, 

>>>>the

>>>> >>sale of which is dying out itself due to downloading.

>>>> >>Back to Greenpeace: With the setting up of the Stockholm Convention 

>>>>and

>>>> >>with the UN banning dioxins will inevitably make vinyl production 

>>>>very

>>>> >>difficult.

>>>> >>

>>>> >>

>>>> >

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