[kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

[melinda grant]

yeah i agree to a point with you there leigh,

i rate "smells like teen spirit" as one of my fav singles and promo 
vid/dvd..shock hay ;-D))

so it was overly commercialised we all agree with that fact, what the heck 
;-),that doesnt mean it still is not a bloody great tune--you know,some 
people think that as soon as a song/single/album becomes over 
commercialised,then some how that devalues the tune/s in some way,

  i disagree with that popular theory,the fact remains weather people can 
stomach it or not,that the tune/s are still bloody great,irrespective of 
commercial/media input or not!!

teen spirit-- i still love it to this day ;-)

melinda

ps gregg or leigh--cannot remember who made referance to this,as its a few 
posts back however--led zep/pink floyd will grow on you in years to come,i 
did not start to appreciate their sound until just over a year ago-- i did 
what time for floyd years ago,as for zep,apart from kashmir--well i thought 
they were generally crap,i just didnt get  it,then one day out of blue,i 
did,and i am certain you will in the distant future.



>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:14:55 -0800 (PST)

>

>Nirvana weren't the death of punk. Their general public's reaction to them 

>was. Nirvana were good and at times really great.

>

>

>----- Original Message ----

>From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:02:01 PM

>Subject: Re: [kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

>

>

>It's good to hear others talk about Nirvana as being the death of punk. Now 

>it all makes sense--mainly because they sucked so much, and really sounded 

>like a metal band, but got labeled punk, alternative, etc. Then we had to 

>listed to over a decade of bands--Suckgarden, Mudhoney, Pearl Scam, 

>Smashing Pumkins, etc etc--that sounded pretty much like mainstream rock, 

>but everyone said they were somehow carrying on the punk tradition. Finally 

>some popular bands are returning to a bit more garage sound (Killers, Yeah 

>Yeah Yeah, Artic Monkeys, etc) and are at least tolerable...

>

>

>

>

>

>From:  "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To:  Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things Killing 

>Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Subject:  Re: [kj] An Olive Branch for Olive-r

>Date:  Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:56:35 -0600

> >Thanks for writing that. And, absolutely -- it isn't fun to be

> >bitchy, honestly. I guess I got into punk about a decade after you

> >did, and even then not into Killing Joke except for a few years ago,

> >though I had of course heard the name zillions of times. I'm getting

> >to the age where I also am beginning to feel like an "old man" (I'm

> >32) and I get cranky as well. I apologize for the nastiness.

> >

> >I love all the bands you mentioned, too. And obviously Killing Joke,

> >who are a band I appreciate more as I get older. I also wore Bauhaus

> >t-shirts in junior high ('89 - '90 -- I even still have a few), the

> >era I call B.N. (Before Nirvana -- because after Nirvana in '92 or

> >so -- sort of the 9/11 for punk, I think, even if Nirvana weren't a

> >punk band, no matter what t-shirts they wore -- everything changed

> >and suddenly the same jocks who wanted to beat you up after school

> >for wearing black, wanted to "mosh" and go to shows and see punk

> >bands). I dyed my hair black (still do) though I never had the balls

> >to try a devillock; I had that skater haircut where the side is

> >shaved but your bangs  hang in your face over one eye -- "the skater

> >flop," or whatever. That seems to be coming back. And I loved the

> >hell out of Vision Street Wear clothing, especially the shoes. I

> >can't help but notice these kinds of accouterments that come with

> >musical culture! (Hair, dress, etc.)  In the 80s it seemed punk and

> >skateboarding were very entangled, and that was the stew I came out

> >of.

> >

> >Yes, you know your musical shit, too. The back-and-forth and tit for

> >tat between us I don't get off on a bit. If it helps any, I also

> >sort of want kids to get off my lawn these days. So, in short -- my

> >apologies as well. I fuck up and make mistakes. I've been an arse,

> >and I shouldn't have been.

> >

> >By the way, those are cool pics and I'm jealous you were there!

> >

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Alex Smith wrote:

> >>Fair enough, Oliver -- I have been being needlessly nitpicky with

> >>you lately, and I apologize. I'm under a bit of presure these days

> >>(lots of layoffs where I work), and that's manifesting itself by

> >>making me needlessly argumentative.

> >>

> >>I know you didn't invent the term "hair metal" (or "crust" or

> >>"punk" or "hardcore" or "thrash" or "goth" or "shoegazer" or "DC

> >>hardcore" or "NYHC" or "Britpop" or "Darkwave" or "post-Punk" etc.

> >>etc. etc. ad nauseum), but I bristle at the abuse of these terms

> >>(seek ye "This Is Pop!" from XTC's first album, WHITE MUSIC).

> >>

> >>Sure, this band or that band may have a lot of hair and wear it in

> >>silly ways (on their face, even!) -- but I don't know about you, I

> >>can't seem to hear their hair when I'm listening to the music.  I

> >>know the tonsorial/sartorial trappings of certain genres of music

> >>act as cultural identifiers, but they're just appetizer. The music

> >>and the messages contained therein are the real meat of the matter

> >>(or, to bludgeon this culinary analogy into the ground, "the

> >>entree").

> >>

> >>

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