[kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

[Leigh Newton]

Superjoint Ritual aren't really thrash. More like grind meets southern doom a la Soilent Green. Hank III is a touring bassist only (i think). I have their first CD and it's pretty decent. The Alcoholik is a great song. Anselmo is indeed a dork. Props to him, though, for paying off Mike Williams (singer from Eyehategod) bail money. There's a whole sordid tale of him being in the wrong place at the wrong time in the wake of the whole Katrina disaster. He wound up in jail with something like a 20 000 bail. 

Leigh


----- Original Message ----
From: Christof hamille <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA


Superjoint Ritual?  I just finished watching American Hardcore and Phil 
Anselmo (Pantera fame) and Hank Wlliams III made an appearance.  They are 
both in the band and why they were in thi documentary is beyond me.  For 
whatever it is worth Phil Anselmo and whatever project he is on is okay.  
Nothing to shit my pants about but god damn that man is annoying as fuck 
when he goes to speak.

Shut up and play

Chris

p.s. Superjoint Ritual is a-typical metal thrash/whatever.  IMO the only 
good ting about them is Jimmy Bower of Eyehategod fame pakying guitar.

p.s.s. (or whatever it is) I do see the Misfits things riddled throughtout 
the movie.  Funny.



>From: "GREG SLAWSON" <gregslawson at msn.com>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:59:25 -0500

>

>

>

>Oliver, you gotta watch the filmaker commentary (special features). They 

>said the reason the DKs and Misfits weren't mentioned was "legal 

>reasons",and they seemed to have no bone w/either band. In fact, they 

>mentioned all the stuff w/Misfits logos in the background during the 

>interviews. Again, the Misfits to me always sounded more classic punk. They 

>also probably shoulda mentioned Social Distortion, maybe as a band who 

>started in the scene and later "made it". Also, NOFX, who started out 

>around 1984 as a thrash/hardcore band.

>

>P.S. Anyone heard the band Superjoint Revival (I think)--w/Hank Williams 

>III? I wonder how they sound.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>From:  "B. Oliver Sheppard" <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>Reply-To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To:  "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject:  Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

>Date:  Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:20:25 -0600

> >

> >

> >Actually, a member of The Replacements was interviewed in the American

> >Hardcore documentary (briefly) saying that in effect he felt the

> >Replacements' stuff approached hardcore, but wasn't quite a part of the

> >hardcore scene the movie talks about.

> >

> >I think Jello's non-appearance is because of what someone (Alex?) said

> >-- his reluctance to be involved with stuff like this nowadays,

>esp.

> >since the, uh, "Dead Kennedys" have re-formed without him -- yes, with a

> >new singer, like the Newfits -- and it might've meant

> >commiserating/dealing with, or reminiscing about, his old DK "buddies,"

> >from whom he's bitterly estranged now. Bobby Steele, who was technically

> >briefly a member of the '77-'83 Misfits lineup is also interviewed in

> >_American Hardcore_ several times, but he's credited not as a Misfit but

> >as a member of of his own band, NY's Undead, the band he's better known

> >for anyway. Steele doesn't discuss the Misfits at all. I have heard a

> >live recording of The Misfits from 1981 or so where Danzig throws a

> >tantrum on stage, into the mic, and goes on about how their ex-guitarist

> >Bobby Steele sucks and so does his new band, The Undead.

> >

> >The major coup for the documentary was getting

>Ian MacKaye to

> >participate at all; he is also notoriously pee-shy about stuff like this

> >-- esp. considering this is a Sony Pictures Classics release. Ian would

> >not let Rhino, for example, use Minor Threat tracks for their "Faster &

> >Louder" hc punk anthology from the early 90s, seen by many as a

> >definitive (though not exhaustive) document for the '80 - '84 US HC era.

> >That was a major blow to Rhino's compilation, which wanted to be the

> >"Nuggets" of US hardcore, and it even had GG Allin on it -- who is also

> >not mentioned in American Hardcore, either, now that I think about it.

> >

> >Still, the Misfits were in the trenches playing right along with the

> >Necros, Poison Idea, & Negative Approach in the early 80s -- and all

> >those were bands covered in this documentary. The documentary isn't

> >perfect but

>I'll admit it also isn't bad. But not covering the Dead

> >Kennedys and/or the Misfits in barely any form makes it way less

> >complete than it'd ideally be. I mean, the DK's were hugely responsible

> >for forging a definite, striking, political direction for hardcore in

> >those days, and they had the obscenity trials in '86, etc.

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> > >

> > > I think American Hardocre was trying to stick w/bands that were truly

> > > undergound--Maybe the DKs were too big, and Misfits were more like

> > > old-school British punk...Notice that Husker Du, Meat Puppets, and

> > > Replacements were also not featured...

> > >

> >

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