[kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

[Christof hamille]

Misfits form day one of the reformation were awful. i was never really a fan 
to begin wit but I can see the eraly attraction.  When they first came 
around this band I was in was playing a festival and it was supposed to be 
over with and everyone cleared out by 11 PM.  Very strict.  So the Misfits 
INSISTED that all of the bands leading up to them were done by 9 PM.
9 PM Neurosis finish.
10 PM nothing
10:30 PM the Gar light drum kits and amps are setup
11:45 still nothing
11:50 they come on and it was the most rediculous Van Halen_Roth_era_esque 
crap I have ever witnessed.  They might as well have been a 80s hair metal.  
Leg kicks, explosions, the whole nine yards.  the only one that wasn't doing 
it was the singer.  And they sounded awful.  And not, the sound guy sucks 
this venue sucks, I mean they were rocking out so hard that they were 
missing notes all over the place.  And no offense but this is not King 
Crimson or anything.  I insisted on leaving.  It was completely pointless 
and if I was a fan I would have been crushed.

I did see them again for the Fiendfest several years back.  I was ONLY there 
for the Danmed, D.I. and the Dickies.  They had the japanese band Balzac 
(Misfits tribute band) and they were 1000 times better than the real deal.  
And by this time Jerry was the only one left and he looked like a retardoo 
wrestler.

uggh the Misfits suck

Chris



>From: gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

>Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:18:14 +0000

>

>The Misfits of the last few years has to be one of the most pathetic things

>EVER!  You get to Misfits songs by not-the-Misfits, Ramones songs by

>not-the-Ramones, and Black Flag songs by not-Black-Flag.   Still, some nice

>teddy-bears for sale on their website (no joke!).

>

>Dave

>

>

>

> >Also, Danzig's stuff (even the less inspired stuff post-4) is *STILL* a

> >quadrillion light years better than the pathetic incarnations of the

> >Misfits that Jerry Only attempts to foist on a gullible public today 

>(yes,

> >even the incarnation with Dez Cadena and Marky Ramone). He needs to hang 

>it up.

> >

> >Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >-----Original Message-----

> > >From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> > >Sent: Feb 26, 2007 10:58 AM

> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

> > >

> > >If you haven't seen Decline part II then you are missing out on what 

>can

> > only be described as the very definition of CO-ME-DY. The Chris Holmes

> > (of W.A.S.P.) floating around in his pool, piss-drunk, while his MOM

> > looks on are pure gold.

> > >

> > >Leigh

> > >

> > >

> > >----- Original Message ----

> > >From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> > >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 

><gathering at misera.net>

> > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:32:02 AM

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

> > >

> > >

> > >I

> > >got into punk in '88 or '89, and by this time, yeah, a lot of the punk

> > >bands had made the leap to hair metal or at least to some type of metal

> > >from the punk roots (roots they'd proudly brandish again any years 

>later

> > >when they realized that was why folks liked them after all).

> > >

> > >Have you compared SSD (SS Decontrol) circa 1982 to their last hair 

>metal

> > >album? Good lord! Or, of course, Danzig going from '77-era East Coast

> > >punk in The Misfits, to being basically a hair metal dude by 1988,

> > >naming his band after his own (fake) last name in the fashion of metal

> > >bands naming themselves after themselves, like Van Halen, Winger, and

> > >others?

> > >

> > >On the _American Hardcore_ documentary -- not a perfect documentary by

> > >any means (where are the Dead Kennedys and Misfits in it?? HUGE gap in

> > >history of 80s punk by not including them) -- it even shows early 

>Boston

> > >HC band DYS on stage announcing publicly, circa 1985, "We used to be a

> > >hardcore punk rock band, but now we're just a hard rock 'n roll

> > >band...." Then it showed DYS playeing what sounded like some crappy

> > >mid-tempo RATT-inspired rock music with the singer using that bad

> > >falsetto that was so omnipresent in the 80s. And wasn't _Decline of

> > >Western Civilization 2_ a documentary about hair metal bands? I've 

>never

> > >seen it, but I always wondered -- what were the hair guys rebelling

> > >against? Not enough Aquanet available in L.A. at the time, or what?

> > >

> > >Back on topic to Killing Joke, though, I always saw their, uh,

> > >"crossover" into pure new wave in the late 80s to be another version of

> > >this change a lot of bands went through, in a sense. I just cannot

> > >listen to anything KJ made after Nighttime until Extremities came 

>along.

> > >

> > >-Oliver

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

> > >> The Blood were a great band! Still play them a lot.

> > >>

> > >> Most of the early-80's punk bands seemed to "progress" onto something

> > else

> > >> fairly rapidly.  Anti Nowhere League, Adicts, Angelic Upstarts, 

>Abrasive

> > >> Wheels... and that's only the ones beginning with A!    There was 

>MUCH

> > >> disappointment to be had for a young punk rocker in those days!   I'd

> > >> actually quite like to hear some of the later material again just to 

>see

> > >> what I make of it now, but on the whole, it was fucking awful at the 

>time!

> > >>

> > >> Max Splodge never sold out though!!

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Dave

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> At 12:07 23/02/2007 +0000, you wrote:

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>> Speaking of bands changing sound, the Cockney Rejects going from

> > Oi/punk to

> > >>>> AC/DC sorta stuff has to be one of the biggest and most hilarious

> > >>>> "progressions" ever!

> > >>>>

> > >>> A few punk bands went that way didn't they . .

> > >>>

> > >>> Anyone remember The Blood?

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >>

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