[kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

[gingoblin at easynet.co.uk]

The Misfits of the last few years has to be one of the most pathetic things 
EVER!  You get to Misfits songs by not-the-Misfits, Ramones songs by 
not-the-Ramones, and Black Flag songs by not-Black-Flag.   Still, some nice 
teddy-bears for sale on their website (no joke!).

Dave




>Also, Danzig's stuff (even the less inspired stuff post-4) is *STILL* a 

>quadrillion light years better than the pathetic incarnations of the 

>Misfits that Jerry Only attempts to foist on a gullible public today (yes, 

>even the incarnation with Dez Cadena and Marky Ramone). He needs to hang it up.

>

>Alex in NYC

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>-----Original Message-----

> >From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

> >Sent: Feb 26, 2007 10:58 AM

> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

> <gathering at misera.net>

> >Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

> >

> >If you haven't seen Decline part II then you are missing out on what can 

> only be described as the very definition of CO-ME-DY. The Chris Holmes 

> (of W.A.S.P.) floating around in his pool, piss-drunk, while his MOM 

> looks on are pure gold.

> >

> >Leigh

> >

> >

> >----- Original Message ----

> >From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

> >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:32:02 AM

> >Subject: Re: [kj] 1000 SUNS Outside Gate and PHANTASMAGORIA

> >

> >

> >I

> >got into punk in '88 or '89, and by this time, yeah, a lot of the punk

> >bands had made the leap to hair metal or at least to some type of metal

> >from the punk roots (roots they'd proudly brandish again any years later

> >when they realized that was why folks liked them after all).

> >

> >Have you compared SSD (SS Decontrol) circa 1982 to their last hair metal

> >album? Good lord! Or, of course, Danzig going from '77-era East Coast

> >punk in The Misfits, to being basically a hair metal dude by 1988,

> >naming his band after his own (fake) last name in the fashion of metal

> >bands naming themselves after themselves, like Van Halen, Winger, and

> >others?

> >

> >On the _American Hardcore_ documentary -- not a perfect documentary by

> >any means (where are the Dead Kennedys and Misfits in it?? HUGE gap in

> >history of 80s punk by not including them) -- it even shows early Boston

> >HC band DYS on stage announcing publicly, circa 1985, "We used to be a

> >hardcore punk rock band, but now we're just a hard rock 'n roll

> >band...." Then it showed DYS playeing what sounded like some crappy

> >mid-tempo RATT-inspired rock music with the singer using that bad

> >falsetto that was so omnipresent in the 80s. And wasn't _Decline of

> >Western Civilization 2_ a documentary about hair metal bands? I've never

> >seen it, but I always wondered -- what were the hair guys rebelling

> >against? Not enough Aquanet available in L.A. at the time, or what?

> >

> >Back on topic to Killing Joke, though, I always saw their, uh,

> >"crossover" into pure new wave in the late 80s to be another version of

> >this change a lot of bands went through, in a sense. I just cannot

> >listen to anything KJ made after Nighttime until Extremities came along.

> >

> >-Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

> >> The Blood were a great band! Still play them a lot.

> >>

> >> Most of the early-80's punk bands seemed to "progress" onto something 

> else

> >> fairly rapidly.  Anti Nowhere League, Adicts, Angelic Upstarts, Abrasive

> >> Wheels... and that's only the ones beginning with A!    There was MUCH

> >> disappointment to be had for a young punk rocker in those days!   I'd

> >> actually quite like to hear some of the later material again just to see

> >> what I make of it now, but on the whole, it was fucking awful at the time!

> >>

> >> Max Splodge never sold out though!!

> >>

> >>

> >> Dave

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> At 12:07 23/02/2007 +0000, you wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>>> Speaking of bands changing sound, the Cockney Rejects going from 

> Oi/punk to

> >>>> AC/DC sorta stuff has to be one of the biggest and most hilarious

> >>>> "progressions" ever!

> >>>>

> >>> A few punk bands went that way didn't they . .

> >>>

> >>> Anyone remember The Blood?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

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