[kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

[Jerry Butson]

This comes to the crux of what the (major) music companies are struggling
with at the moment (while the independents and the artists just get on with
it).

The major companies have been using DRM (or Digital Rights Management) to
protect their content in the online World but there's evidence to suggest
that it's actually stifling potential sales whilst p2p and mp3 trading
continue unabated. There are differences of opinion as to the value of DRM
and whether to continue protecting music in this way.

This is nothing new: ever since the cassette was launched the music biz has
been banging on about not copying music whilst not being able to do a thing
about it but their real beef nowadays is that the means of distribution has
been pulled out from under them upsetting their cosy little cartel and they
both failed to spot it and to get involved in the brave new world of online
distribution until it was (almost) too late.

It can be argued that copying of music files denies the artist their income
but it's always gone on and has not killed the business yet. What I think it
comes down to is the consumers perception of value and fair play, not to
mention the fact that physical bootlegs (like CDs) get sold for money...mp3s
are shared freely.

The music biz should bite the bullet and accept that it ain't gonna go away
and ultimately benefits them by fostering and propagating music saving them
millions in promotion costs

Discuss




>    -----Original Message-----

> > *From:* Neil Perry [mailto: neilfperry at btinternet.com]

> > *Sent:* 06 February 2007 16:47

> > *To:* A list a

> >

> > bout all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Killing Joke- Buy or Die

>

> Same here, but to back up my earlier outburst,

> I've already bought every KJ release 3, sometimes 4 times - vinyl,

> replacement copies for fucked vinyl, CD, re-issued CD, etc - so

> there you go, I've already paid for someone's free download several

> times over... generally I wouldn't do it to new/upcoming bands

> but someone as long in the tooth as KJ? No problem. If they're

> not making a living doing this after all this time, they're in the

> wrong career.

> N

>

>

> *"B. Oliver Sheppard" < bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>* wrote:

>



> > Obviously, I love KJ, or I wouldn't be here. But I'll admit that I heard

> >

> > msny of their albums illegally and unauthorized over p2p file sharing

> > networks before I decided, "Okay, I am definitely a fan of this

> > excellent band." A band whose oeuvre I might not've heard hadn't it been

> >

> > for Soulseek. Then I decided to collect the physical merchandise.

> >

> > At that point, I did proceed to track down vinyl and CD copies of the

> > band's material, as well as other non-downloadable merch., like

> > t-shirts, stickers, et. al.

> >

> > I don't think many bands realize how much mp3 downloads really HELP

> > them. If a band is so insecure about its material that it wants folks to

> >

> > buy their LPs before listeners hear them and find out they suck -- well,

> >

> > then, posh on that band. A confident band would WANT to get the music

> > out there, bar none, to prospective listeners, and would confidently

> > assume real appreciators of the band would buy the real vinyl/CD. That's

> >

> > how many punk bands operate nowadays.

> >

> > I have a fine collection of KJ merch. I dunno how much of my purchases

> > goes into Jaz's, Geordie's, etc, pockets, but that's not my fault. I

> > download *AND* I buy. The two are not inseparable.

> >

> > See, for example, this picture of me with a really nice right-eye shiner

> >

> > (seizure disorder) in my very proudly-owned KJ "Requiem" t-shirt. My

> > girlfriend bought it for me from England for Xmas. So, no, I am not some

> >

> > slovenly bootlegger who never buys actual KJ merch. I really do love

> > Killing Joke, heart and soul. I love owning their actual, physical

> > material. But I'm also a punk at heart: Music for the masses/don't quit

> > your day job.

> >

> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/wolfbrigade/badeye2.jpg

> >

> >

> > Yours 'til the Aocalypse,

> >

> > Oliver

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Neil Perry wrote:

> > > Bah, screw Killing Joke. Download/pirate/boot as much

> > > as you like. Financial knife-edge? They'd use it to slit

> > > your throat before giving you anything for free. Only if

> > > Colesy is involved would I say don't do it.

> > >

> > > 'Servicing their fanbase'? I hope this is an example of an

> > > extremely dry sense of humour. We've all been 'serviced'

> > > by KJ at one stage or another.

> > >

> > > Take take take

> > > N

> > >

> > > *//*

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