[kj] OT : post-punk vids link

[Christof hamille]

I label Simple Minds as shit. Sorry. Never got it.  Easily forgettable, A-typical 80s soft-rock, pop, alternative (but not really) dribble


Chris

From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:44:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk vids link

Well, if we *really* want to get technical, I don't think we could really call the Simple Minds "New Romantics," as they had nothing to do with the ruffled-sleeve gaggle of preening peacocks who hung out at the Blitz and whatnot (i.e. Duran, Spandau, etc.). Simple Minds started off as a Punk band called Johnny & the Self-Abusers and went from there. I suppose that might qualify them as "post-punk" (as, on a purely literal level, they happened *post* Punk Rock). By the same token, I think the term "post-punk" is an apt one to describe U2 with (listen to BOY and tell me they don't fit in with the predominant sound commonly associated with "post-punk"). That both of those bands morphed into different beasts entirely (not unlike, say, Killing Joke) is another matter. And I'm still waiting to hear why Danielle Dax and Strawberry Switchblade don't qualify as "post-punk". What are they, then? "Goths"? Goth-Pop? Wouldn't both of those sub-genres fall under the "post-punk" umbrella anyway? As far as I'm concerned, all Goth is Post-Punk, yet not all Post-Punk is Goth. Bigger question: who cares? I get hung up when bands are wrongly labelled  (i.e. calling Redd Kross a hair metal band or calling Killing Joke a Goth band), but at the end of the day -- especially in 2007 when most of these labels are meaningless and long dead -- I'd rather judge a band based on their individual merits than on their party loyalty to whatever label or sub-genre they've been assigned.But to call Killing Joke a goth band is to do them an unduly limiting and belittling disservice.Alex in NYC
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:26 AM, ade wrote:  For once I agree with you, but I guess labels are a way of getting a concept across. It's more to do with the mechanism of communication than putting bands in a box.   -----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net   [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Alexander   Smith
Sent: 14 December 2007 14:20
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk   vids link

  
  Labels labels labels.....    Alex in NYC    
    On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:48 AM, GREG SLAWSON wrote:      
Aren't     Simple Minds "New Romantic" (that term was used in the US a bit)? OMD were     early one electro-rock or whatever, but sounded more and more like the NR's     as time went on...
                From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri,       14 Dec 2007 20:51:06 +1300
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk vids       link

            That raises the       question of what exactly is post-punk, I had a vague idea but not so sure       now. For example OMD and Simple Minds? I would have called OMD more pop,       Simple Minds pop / rock. The lead singer out of Simple’s Minds’ voice       always reminded me of Bono but I would prefer to listen to Simple       Minds.                               From: gathering-bounces at misera.net       [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of countessghoulita at aol.com
Sent: Friday, 14 December 2007 8:15       p.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk vids       link             This website       is pretty good (although I would not consider Danielle Dax or Strawberry       Switchblade post-punk). I found that out some months ago, when I added post-punk.com on       myspace. The list of videos keeps       growing :).

Thank you for posting it :)                    -----Original       Message-----
From: Jason <jason8 at btinternet.com>
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Sent:       Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk vids       link                        Great links,       cheers..                                           From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 13 December 2007       02:29
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT : post-punk vids       link                   Excellent..nice one       :)                              From: antoni at clara.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed,       12 Dec 2007 22:49:34 +0000
Subject: [kj] OT : post-punk vids       link                  * http://www.post-punk.com/ppvideos.html *                               Just picked up on       the above link courtesy of the Artery bulletin board on Myspace ...       definitely worth sharing ... Regards,       Antoni                                       Get       the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Get it now!      _______________________________________________



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