[kj] Killing joke and Communism

Rob Horan Rob at westwoodassociates.co.uk
Wed Aug 22 04:48:14 EDT 2007


This is more neocon than libertarian no?

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
On Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 21 August 2007 23:26
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] Killing joke and Communism

I can't stand Libertarians (in the US; in other parts of the world the
word signifies left-anarchism; in the US it's the "anti-big government"
party with a big govt. statue as its motto).

While Libs are good on social/cultural issues, like legalizations of
drugs, eliminating laws that make homosexuality illegal, prostitution,
etc., they are HORRIBLE when it comes to economics.

They are against the idea of a minimum wage; they are against any laws
that support a 40 hour work week, basically which would eliminate
weekends; they are against social insurance of any kind, like Social
Security, which tens of millions of elederly Americans depend on for a
living; against prescription drug assistance; they oppose the EPA; they
do not want government oversight or public accountability for corporate
behavior (the corporations will presumably police themselves); and they
do not want the Food & Drug Administration.

If they were consistent they would also oppose patent and copyright
laws, oppose state-granted corporate charters, would oppose the military

and indeed the whole military industrial complex, would support cuts in
the police force and reduce the size of the Army, and get rid of a lot
of prisons -- but a lot of their "anti-big government rhetoric"
translates into "anti-big government when it seems to benefit for the
poor or working class; but a blind eye on government that it
militaristic and kicks peoples' asses."

There's a reason Libertarians have come to be called pot-smoking
Republicans.

And Ron paul sucks.

-Oliver


Brendan wrote:

> The popular media would have you believe that the political spectrum

is

> two dimensional, but while I'm sure it has its uses, is ultimately

pretty

> hampering, for example Libertarians don't fit in properly at all.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

>

> PS: Jaz voted once for the GREEN party in NZ, so you're talking pretty

> left...they have a pot smoking rastafarian MP. He reckons that's the

only

> time he has voted, I've got about the same voting history, voted twice

and

> both times for the greenies as well as legalise cannabis / Labour (we

get

> MP and party votes)

>

>

>

>


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