[kj] /brendan ;-)

[Brendan]

Haha, I'm usually taking the piss Mel, as I was when I made that comment
about Librans...

PS: No I'm not on facebook but I suppose I should get around to it...for
some reason I have avoided MSN and MySpace and all that electronic talking
to people shit (except this list :), I babble enough over email and text
messages already...okay I'll sort that out.






> you have a huge ego brendan ;-D,but you know what,its not irritating,its

> kinda charming in an amusing 33      11.11 way ;-D

>

> melinda ps olly has not said anything,i think he is a male goat,there a

> bit

> serious ,perhaps he is thinking about it,wether to say anything or not,he

> does not want to put a hoof wrong,there usually careful ;-D))  which is ok

> by me!!!!

>

> pps you on facebook yet brendan?

>

>

>>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>><gathering at misera.net>

>>Subject: Re: [kj] oliver /brendan ;-)

>>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:33:58 +1200 (NZST)

>>

>>No problems, us Librans hate miscommunications and endeavour to sort them

>>out whenever possible...in my case, it seems to be so that all the

>>attention can be on me when I put my foot in my gob with some blunt

>>remark... :)

>>

>>

>> > of course your not mad oliver ;-D))), but maybe a little to serious at

>> > times---i said" are you --pissed",i was trying to lighten the

>> situation

>>on

>> > a

>> > friday eve, having a laugh,i do that alot,as i see humour in

>> > everything,thought you would end up laughing,i did ;-D

>> >

>> >   and yes,what a characture john lydon is,i have met him many times

>> over

>> > the

>> > years,and id say in my eyes,hes on a par with jaz,as in who i rate

>>highly

>> > both for there minds and style of music  ;-D.

>> >

>> > brendan,you added  extra bits to that whole out look on that programme

>>and

>> > j.l,thnx ;-) took words right out of my mind,as i was going to do that

>> > todayxx

>> >

>> > i was trying to cover everything in my post on friday eve(whilst

>> beeing

>> > exstremely tired after a very demanding week all around on most fronts

>>in

>> > my

>> > life-thought id log-on to relax,saw that thing about john lydon,and

>> felt

>> > compelled to defend him ;-),but some things dont always come across in

>> > posts

>> > entirely as one intended them to,john,love him,he tryied his

>> best,under

>> > circumstances,i tryied my best to defend him under circumstances,olly

>> > tryied

>> > his best as he saw it,from his view point,some times we all cock it up

>> a

>> > little  ;-D)))

>> >

>> > thank goodness for you brendan,you filled important gaps that said it

>> > all,john lydons no racist/nazi and never has been, ;-))  i always knew

>> > that,but perhaps others were not clear about it  ;-/

>> >

>> > melinda

>> >

>> >

>> >>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

>> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

>> >><gathering at misera.net>

>> >>Subject: Re: [kj] oliver u sound pissed ;-/

>> >>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:23:41 +1200 (NZST)

>> >>

>> >>Yeah I think you're mis-reading Olly too. I had exactly the same

>> >>impression about how Lydon came off in that interview, no biggie in it

>> >> but

>> >>that bit seemed a bit awkward, looked like the guy didn't really know

>>how

>> >>to take him...but I think Lydon was just trying to be friendly and

>> >>connect, not ignore the other guest, in the 1-3 mins or however long

>> >> those

>> >>interviews go on for. Perhaps he wanted to explain himself to the

>> >> american

>> >>public, perhaps he thought there's some left-over association in some

>> >>people's minds between punk music and racist skinheads, who knows? And

>>he

>> >>wanted to demonstrate that, as perhaps the biggest punk figure of all

>> >>time, he's totally against that...but when you're a) pissed, b) hugely

>> >>time constrained, and c) on live telly being interviewed, you're less

>> >>likely to be able to communicate subtly.

>> >>

>> >>I agree with Olly that it looked a bit like white apologist behaviour,

>> >> but

>> >>what's wrong with that? It's easy to quote cliches about ebony and

>> ivory

>> >>and all that but race relations are fucking awkward at times, I didn't

>> >>take Olly's comments negatively towards Lydon at all. I've felt the

>> same

>> >>way on both sides (being quarter lebanese) ...you say and do stupid

>> >>things, but only because your ethic is to demonstrate that there's NO

>> >> race

>> >>barrier to you...when in fact if you just acted normal that

>> communicates

>> >>everything you wanted to say anyways. It's awkward sometimes, simple

>> as

>> >>that.

>> >>

>> >> > Actually, I'm not mad; I just think I was mis-read.

>> >> >

>> >> > Believe it or not, I can claim to have met John Lydon personally. I

>>AM

>> >> > FAMOUS. It was when he wrote that autobiography in the early 90s.

>> _No

>> >> > Blacks, No Irish_ etc whatever.  He went on a book-signing tour in

>>the

>> >> > US. He appeared at a bookstore in Dallas, TX, wearing a Dallas

>> Stars

>> >> > hockey jersey. If you wanted him to sign your book you had to buy

>>one,

>> >> > which in hardback was like US $25. I didn't have the $$ for that,

>> and

>> >> > besides, the line was so long it curled around the back of the very

>> >> > large store he was at, and I was so punk at the time I thought

>> >> > autographs were for morons.

>> >> >

>> >> > A lot of punks were hanging around outside, not buying his book of

>> >> > course, too, but nonetheless sitting around on the benches as if it

>> >> were

>> >> > a punk gig. I'm sure the book store managers loved that. They were

>> >> used

>> >> > to book signings by people like Dean Koontz and Joan Collins -- not

>> >> THIS

>> >> > crowd.

>> >> >

>> >> > I went inside and even though I didn't have a copy of his bio me

>> and

>>a

>> >> > friend got close to to the table he was at, which was very awkward.

>>He

>> >> > sort of looked up at us. I said, "Hi," and he said, "Hi." That was

>>it.

>> >> > MAGICAL, isn't it!?!?

>> >> >

>> >> > In any event I know more about Lydon than I do 98% of US

>> presidents.

>> >> > Even so, I still hold the apparently damnable and atrocious opinion

>> I

>> >> > do, which is actually very mld and quite innocuous, about that

>> Kimmel

>> >> > interview. Quentin Tarantino did an interview on Leno where he was

>> >> blind

>> >> > drunk and came off a lot worse than Lydon ever has, if that means

>> >> > anything. Then again, I can't stand Tarantino. He annoys the fuck

>> out

>> >> of

>> >> > me.

>> >> >

>> >> > -Oliver

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > melinda grant wrote:

>> >> >> oliver-- thats why i bothered to exsplain to you--you were having

>> a

>> >> go

>> >> >> at johns bahaviour,because you thought he ment somethings,by

>> acting

>> >> >> akward and wierd as you said it,towards the actor black

>> >> >> guy.......................

>> >> >>

>> >> >> i filed in the gaps for you--which if you had known in first

>> >> place,you

>> >> >> would not of drawn that conclusion on johns approach towards the

>> >> actor

>> >> >> guy----id say i did you a favour,now you want to carry it on ;-/

>>you

>> >> >> were wrong about john ok,its not a compeition ;-)

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

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