[kj] /brendan ;-)

[melinda grant]

you have a huge ego brendan ;-D,but you know what,its not irritating,its 
kinda charming in an amusing 33      11.11 way ;-D

melinda ps olly has not said anything,i think he is a male goat,there a bit 
serious ,perhaps he is thinking about it,wether to say anything or not,he 
does not want to put a hoof wrong,there usually careful ;-D))  which is ok 
by me!!!!

pps you on facebook yet brendan?



>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 

>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 

><gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] oliver /brendan ;-)

>Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:33:58 +1200 (NZST)

>

>No problems, us Librans hate miscommunications and endeavour to sort them

>out whenever possible...in my case, it seems to be so that all the

>attention can be on me when I put my foot in my gob with some blunt

>remark... :)

>

>

> > of course your not mad oliver ;-D))), but maybe a little to serious at

> > times---i said" are you --pissed",i was trying to lighten the situation 

>on

> > a

> > friday eve, having a laugh,i do that alot,as i see humour in

> > everything,thought you would end up laughing,i did ;-D

> >

> >   and yes,what a characture john lydon is,i have met him many times over

> > the

> > years,and id say in my eyes,hes on a par with jaz,as in who i rate  

>highly

> > both for there minds and style of music  ;-D.

> >

> > brendan,you added  extra bits to that whole out look on that programme 

>and

> > j.l,thnx ;-) took words right out of my mind,as i was going to do that

> > todayxx

> >

> > i was trying to cover everything in my post on friday eve(whilst beeing

> > exstremely tired after a very demanding week all around on most fronts 

>in

> > my

> > life-thought id log-on to relax,saw that thing about john lydon,and felt

> > compelled to defend him ;-),but some things dont always come across in

> > posts

> > entirely as one intended them to,john,love him,he tryied his best,under

> > circumstances,i tryied my best to defend him under circumstances,olly

> > tryied

> > his best as he saw it,from his view point,some times we all cock it up a

> > little  ;-D)))

> >

> > thank goodness for you brendan,you filled important gaps that said it

> > all,john lydons no racist/nazi and never has been, ;-))  i always knew

> > that,but perhaps others were not clear about it  ;-/

> >

> > melinda

> >

> >

> >>From: "Brendan" <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> >>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the

> >>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>

> >>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"

> >><gathering at misera.net>

> >>Subject: Re: [kj] oliver u sound pissed ;-/

> >>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 14:23:41 +1200 (NZST)

> >>

> >>Yeah I think you're mis-reading Olly too. I had exactly the same

> >>impression about how Lydon came off in that interview, no biggie in it

> >> but

> >>that bit seemed a bit awkward, looked like the guy didn't really know 

>how

> >>to take him...but I think Lydon was just trying to be friendly and

> >>connect, not ignore the other guest, in the 1-3 mins or however long

> >> those

> >>interviews go on for. Perhaps he wanted to explain himself to the

> >> american

> >>public, perhaps he thought there's some left-over association in some

> >>people's minds between punk music and racist skinheads, who knows? And 

>he

> >>wanted to demonstrate that, as perhaps the biggest punk figure of all

> >>time, he's totally against that...but when you're a) pissed, b) hugely

> >>time constrained, and c) on live telly being interviewed, you're less

> >>likely to be able to communicate subtly.

> >>

> >>I agree with Olly that it looked a bit like white apologist behaviour,

> >> but

> >>what's wrong with that? It's easy to quote cliches about ebony and ivory

> >>and all that but race relations are fucking awkward at times, I didn't

> >>take Olly's comments negatively towards Lydon at all. I've felt the same

> >>way on both sides (being quarter lebanese) ...you say and do stupid

> >>things, but only because your ethic is to demonstrate that there's NO

> >> race

> >>barrier to you...when in fact if you just acted normal that communicates

> >>everything you wanted to say anyways. It's awkward sometimes, simple as

> >>that.

> >>

> >> > Actually, I'm not mad; I just think I was mis-read.

> >> >

> >> > Believe it or not, I can claim to have met John Lydon personally. I 

>AM

> >> > FAMOUS. It was when he wrote that autobiography in the early 90s. _No

> >> > Blacks, No Irish_ etc whatever.  He went on a book-signing tour in 

>the

> >> > US. He appeared at a bookstore in Dallas, TX, wearing a Dallas Stars

> >> > hockey jersey. If you wanted him to sign your book you had to buy 

>one,

> >> > which in hardback was like US $25. I didn't have the $$ for that, and

> >> > besides, the line was so long it curled around the back of the very

> >> > large store he was at, and I was so punk at the time I thought

> >> > autographs were for morons.

> >> >

> >> > A lot of punks were hanging around outside, not buying his book of

> >> > course, too, but nonetheless sitting around on the benches as if it

> >> were

> >> > a punk gig. I'm sure the book store managers loved that. They were

> >> used

> >> > to book signings by people like Dean Koontz and Joan Collins -- not

> >> THIS

> >> > crowd.

> >> >

> >> > I went inside and even though I didn't have a copy of his bio me and 

>a

> >> > friend got close to to the table he was at, which was very awkward. 

>He

> >> > sort of looked up at us. I said, "Hi," and he said, "Hi." That was 

>it.

> >> > MAGICAL, isn't it!?!?

> >> >

> >> > In any event I know more about Lydon than I do 98% of US presidents.

> >> > Even so, I still hold the apparently damnable and atrocious opinion I

> >> > do, which is actually very mld and quite innocuous, about that Kimmel

> >> > interview. Quentin Tarantino did an interview on Leno where he was

> >> blind

> >> > drunk and came off a lot worse than Lydon ever has, if that means

> >> > anything. Then again, I can't stand Tarantino. He annoys the fuck out

> >> of

> >> > me.

> >> >

> >> > -Oliver

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > melinda grant wrote:

> >> >> oliver-- thats why i bothered to exsplain to you--you were having a

> >> go

> >> >> at johns bahaviour,because you thought he ment somethings,by acting

> >> >> akward and wierd as you said it,towards the actor black

> >> >> guy.......................

> >> >>

> >> >> i filed in the gaps for you--which if you had known in first

> >> place,you

> >> >> would not of drawn that conclusion on johns approach towards the

> >> actor

> >> >> guy----id say i did you a favour,now you want to carry it on ;-/  

>you

> >> >> were wrong about john ok,its not a compeition ;-)

> >> >>

> >> >>

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