[kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
Christof hamille
wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 12 10:07:01 EDT 2006
I guess what I consider "industrial" is a band that, one way or another, is
emulating the rhythmic BUTvery machine like. I think of a giant metal
stamping machine in a car factory and hearing the drum or bass line out of
that. Not as ...organic...which is what I think differentiates Killing Joke
from someone like Ministry (at least Land of through Psalm 69).
Chris
>From: "ade" <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk>
>Reply-To: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk,"A list about all things Killing Joke
>(the band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "'Alex Smith'" <vassifer at earthlink.net>,"'A list about all things
>Killing Joke (the band!)'"<gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 23:45:59 +0100
>
>To choose a more obvious example, I think KJ's influence on Ministry is
>immense & they're considered to be somewhat industrial. I'm erring on the
>side of KJ's influence on the rock/tribal/dischord end of industrial.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>Behalf Of Alex Smith
> Sent: 07 September 2006 18:23
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!);
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> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>
>
> A label is a label is a label. I'm not condemning them or praising them,
>just pointing out that in the case of Killing Joke, the label "industrial"
>doesn't seem to fit.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Papa Lazarou
> Sent: Sep 7, 2006 11:52 AM
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
>
>
> Why does it have to 'be' something?
> For branding? :/
>
> Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I think all our respective definitions of "industrial" are
>conflicting.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Rob Horan
> >Sent: Sep 7, 2006 8:18 AM
> >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
> >Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
> >
> >The keyboards, particularly on KJ and EDVRE, provide irrefutable
>proof
> >of 'industrial' influence, no?
> >
> >horbag
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> >On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
> >Sent: 07 September 2006 12:39
> >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> >Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
> >
> >
> >Can't say I remember that, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers banged on
> >metal during the middle-eight of "Breaking the Girl" and they're
>not
> >"industrial" either.
> >
> >Alex in NYC
> >
> >
> >On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:37 AM, Blazingstar418 wrote:
> >
> >> Good evening All,
> >>
> >>> No one bangs on metal.
> >>
> >> *ahem*
> >> Except on "Change". ;)
> >>
> >> A L P
> >>
> >> --- Alex Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 1. I've never understood why people call Killing
> >>> Joke industrial. Honestly. They play drums, guitars,
> >>> bass and keyboards.
> >>> Comparatively conventional instrumentation is the
> >>> order of the day. They may share a bleak,
> >>> apocalyptic world view with some of the "industrial"
> >>> acts, but I don't see any connection beyond that.
> >>>
> >>> 2. KJ with a woman drummer or bass player? Sure,
> >>> although I'm not sure it would necessarily fit. For
> >>> better or worse, I think there's always been a
> >>> prominently testosterone-centric vibe to the `Joke
> >>> (who knows? Maybe that's been their undoing!) Much
> >>> like, say, the early Stranglers, Killing Joke carry
> >>> themselves like a gang of thugs. That's how they
> >>> potray themselves and, presumably, how they live.
> >>> That atmosphere of menace and the veiled threats of
> >>> violence -- however ultimately childish and
> >>> impractical -- seem like thoroughly male traits. I
> >>> think a female in the ranks would greatly change the
> >>> dynamic. I'd be curious to see/hear it, but I
> >>> wouldn't hold my breath.
> >>>
> >>> Would you settle for Raven in a dress?
> >>>
> >>> Alex in NYC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Lennonka
> >>>> Sent: Sep 5, 2006 11:47 AM
> >>>> To: gathering at misera.net
> >>>> Subject: [kj] OT: Few lunatic questions
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Please try to think about it first before you
> >>> reprobate me : )))
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Tried someone to listen to KJ music after
> >>> smoking a joint? It seemed to me more like "techno"
> >>> than "rock". Is it because that they're so
> >>> industrial or I smoked too much? : ))
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Are they an interlink between rock music and
> >>> electronical music?
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. How would you like if a woman was in a role of
> >>> the KJ instrumentalist?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Lennonka, currently in Netherlands (that is
> >>> explaining all, I think : )))
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