[kj] Democracy drummer mystery

[god botherer]

Maurice

Must have missed your original post on the subject. In my e-mail I didn't 
name the Democracy drummer, because I've always had a suspicion. Now I'm 
fascinated to see Marc come up with his version of events, i.e. much of 
Democracy is not Dugmore, which I'd not heard before.

It certainly seems that the Pandemonium drumming is simply adequate, while 
the Democracy drumming is something else. It is conceivable that it is the 
same person, and that he is just liberated and part of the creation process 
on the second of the pair. But it is plausible that it is someone else, and 
it is certainly plausible that a falling-out ensued.

By the way, have to say Atkins is a great drummer, and he did great work on 
Extremities. Intravenous? Slipstream? Only thing is, the toms sound like 
cardboard boxes. Live, he is awesome.

To Peter West and others who don't get Democracy, some advice: programme 
your player to miss out tracks 3, 4 and 10. Just pretend they don't exist. 
And don't listen to other (better produced) KJ immediately before or after 
(so the latest album should be OK then).

Si




>From: Marcos Santiago <marcossantiago99 at yahoo.com>

>wowowowow....Finally someone in this list agree with
>me
>about democracy drummer...this guy was huge on drums
>really blasting..his performance was incredible....
>and i say it again for those who waste the fucking
>time in this list talking rubbish about
>democracy.....democracy is a great and magnificent
>album..is one of my favorites...and there is nothing
>wrong with Jaz voice... i think jaz voice was
>performed on purpose in order to make the album a
>rawer one more than the previous albums...jaz is a
>superb singer he can sing however he likes .and for
>those in this list specially who runs this list which
>spend the time licking Martin Atkins ass...Atkins was
>a magnificent drummer but his performance in
>Extremities really sucks..perhaps Atkins thought he
>was playing in a metal band or something....Geoff
>Dugmore was magnificent playing drums and as Mr.Si
>said it is a shame that Dugmore was forgotten after a
>magnificent performance...the best killing joke
>drummer after Big Paul of course...
>
>So please stop cursing Democracy..please seat in a
>sofa
>and play Democracy again to enjoy what Dugmore did
>for those who never believed in this album.
>
>wowowowow
>such a relief i feel to say this...
>
>cheers..from Venezuela...(The second Cuba )
>
>Maurice
>
>
>
>  --- god botherer <acroastic at hotmail.com> escribió:
>
> > Just wanted to pay tribute to the drumming on
> > Democracy, as I've never seen
> > anything complimentary said about the drummer. He
> > brings Savage Freedom
> > alive, does exactly the right thing on Aeon, pounds
> > away to great effect on
> > Pilgrimage and Absent Friends and there are some
> > lovely touches on tracks
> > like Medicine Wheel.
> >
> > He wasn't to blame that there were a couple of
> > turkeys on that album, and
> > that it was hamstrung by the production.
> >
> > Now he's gone and forgotten and unappreciated. Seems
> > a shame.
> >
> > For all the faults on that album, I still sense that
> > the band were trying to
> > make the music they wanted to make, without
> > reference to the whims of the
> > market, and with Jaz remembering to sing some of the
> > time instead of just
> > shouty vocals all the way through.
> >
> > Si
> >
> >
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