[kj] was Democracy now drink

[bongo]

Youth would have made the brew a bit special... (LSTea)



On 10/16/06, Juliet Pleming <price-pleming at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Where does the assertion come from that Killing Joke ever saw themselves
> as tea drinkers?
>
> And if so did they collectively decide to be tea drinkers? Or did Jaz
> decide for them?
>
> Having been a hanger-on in those days, I for one never saw any of them
> drinking tea!
>
> Juliet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On Behalf Of Robert Mallett
> Sent: 15 October 2006 11:27
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> Subject: Re: [kj] was Democracy now drink
>
> Something very revealing about the first incarnation of Killing Joke as
> opposed to latter years. They saw themselves as tea drinkers, not
> boozers.
> It wasn't a drinking band. Would that it was still so.
>
> If there is to be a further throw of the dice, I dearly hope they come
> back
> 'dry'.
>
> totally agree. heavy drinking always ends in tears in my experience.
>
> bob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "god botherer" <acroastic at hotmail.com>
> To: <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:53 AM
> Subject: [kj] was Democracy now drink
>
>
> > I'm sure you're right about Geordie. I wish he'd put his foot down
> more.
> > That's where you need Big Paul. Why didn't Geordie leave the drink
> alone
> > and try and sort the sound out - at least live? He's so great, and
> life is
> > short. Probably right about Jaz. Drink a big negative again. Hope
> you're
> > not right about Raven. I imagine he would have been disappointed the
> way
> > the last album sounded - it could have been truly great. I think he is
>
> > concerned about quality - he's a great bass player - but seems to have
>
> > immersed himself in some of the more crass aspects of American
> culture.
> >
> > Something very revealing about the first incarnation of Killing Joke
> as
> > opposed to latter years. They saw themselves as tea drinkers, not
> boozers.
> > It wasn't a drinking band. Would that it was still so.
> >
> > If there is to be a further throw of the dice, I dearly hope they come
>
> > back 'dry'.
> >
> > Si
> >
> >
> >>From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> >
> >>doubt raven regrets the last two..the guy just doesn't display that
> much
> >>concern for quality or ability to discern in general.
> >>geordie must have regrets and it seems he has made statements that
> would
> >>support that position.
> >>but jaz may be too absorbed to notice, and if he were to pull his head
> out
> >>his shit canal long enough to observe, he might find a whole mess of
> >>things less trivial to regret.
> >>
> >>
> >>god botherer wrote:
> >>>Agree about the pandering - surely they regret it.
> >>>
> >>>Si
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
> >>>
> >>>>*i agree about the drumming to some extent..also feel that democracy
> was
> >>>>the last record where kj recorded material with less consciousness
> for
> >>>>an audience - pandemonium and the last two sound pandering. what's
> worse
> >>>>is the type of overcooked meatloaf chin mullet creature they pander
> too
> >>>>makes them virtually unlistenable. the experience is like listening
> to a
> >>>>politician, a sports commentator, or watching porno - uncreative,
> cheap,
> >>>>cheezy and predictable.
> >>>>*
> >>>>god botherer wrote:
> >>>>>Just wanted to pay tribute to the drumming on Democracy, as I've
> never
> >>>>>seen anything complimentary said about the drummer. He brings
> Savage
> >>>>>Freedom alive, does exactly the right thing on Aeon, pounds away to
>
> >>>>>great effect on Pilgrimage and Absent Friends and there are some
> lovely
> >>>>>touches on tracks like Medicine Wheel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>He wasn't to blame that there were a couple of turkeys on that
> album,
> >>>>>and that it was hamstrung by the production.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now he's gone and forgotten and unappreciated. Seems a shame.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For all the faults on that album, I still sense that the band were
> >>>>>trying to make the music they wanted to make, without reference to
> the
> >>>>>whims of the market, and with Jaz remembering to sing some of the
> time
> >>>>>instead of just shouty vocals all the way through.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Si
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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