[kj] Jaz Straw

[The Exorcist]

Did you folks know that Jews & Muslims are humans as well!
Talk about revelations!
Who woulda thunk!

My 2 cents :)

At 03:26 PM 10/12/2006, you wrote:

>Judaism is both a faith AND an ethnicity, if I'm not mistaken. One 
>can live an entirely secular lifestyle and still technically be Jewish.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>precisely. thank you Alex
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
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>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
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>>
>>Judaism is both a faith AND an ethnicity, if I'm not mistaken. One 
>>can live an entirely secular lifestyle and still technically be Jewish.
>>
>>Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>Sent: Oct 12, 2006 1:38 PM
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>
>>>Jew is a Religion
>>>
>>>No. Jewishness is a national identity as well as a religious ideology.
>>>Hitler, bless him, regarded Jewish people as the lowest 'race' of all and
>>>destined for annihilation.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
>>><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>>>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>
>>>
>>>>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>>>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>>>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>>>
>>>>  No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like
>>>>Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for
>>>>being derogatory towards Jews.
>>>>  So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>>>>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that him
>>>>being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be
>>>>judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>>>
>>>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>>>>me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>>1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that Straw
>>>>>of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No Peter, I'm
>>>>>not remotely rascist;
>>>>>
>>>>>2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why publicise
>>>>>it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim women to
>>>>>remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's promoting
>>>>>himself! Don't be so fucking naive.
>>>>>
>>>>>3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that he
>>>>>thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing it. So,
>>>>>he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. Right on Jack!
>>>>>
>>>>>4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of society
>>>>>are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me or anyone
>>>>>else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>>>>
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