[kj] (ot) Jaz Straw

[flight Bringer]

"I really don't see how the veil is an impediment to communication".
  Says Jim who has never spoken to a person wearing one


"There is no religious obligation whatsoever for Muslim women to cover 
themselves up....."

"Both pupils and teachers raised concerns because they were finding it 
difficult to make out what she was saying during lessons."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/6046992.stm



>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: [kj] (ot) Jaz Straw
>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:29:13 +0100 (BST)
>
>I'm all for compromise in communication, but in this situation, I really 
>don't see how the veil is an impediment to communication. No, you can't 
>read every nuance of what the other person is saying, but you can't do that 
>with non-veil wearers either.  Maybe you can't see what _expression is on 
>their face, but I'm not a veil-wearer and I keep my true feelings from 
>showing on my face all the time, as everyone does. All you can do is go by 
>what you *can* pick up on- I don't get why this situation is so different.
>
>   Jim.
>
>ade <ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>     Whitey - I think it got the point across well ! :)
>
>   If you ordered food from a restaurant in Big Gay Paris, who compromises? 
>The dude expects you to
>   have made the effort, so you have to order in the local tongue. 
>Otherwise the face gets pulled & the
>   interest in your order wanes.. (from previous experience! :)
>
>   Seems pretty one-way too, but I think entirely fair & I don't see it as 
>prejudice - it's about making
>   the effort. I think compromises HAVE to be made when it comes to 
>communication, in order to
>   'tune-in' to each other, but that does not render each party 
>transparent/devoid of culture.
>
>
>   ade
>
>
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