[kj] Jaz Straw

flight Bringer flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Oct 12 15:00:13 EDT 2006


Robert. I would say that Jack Straw and his constituents live and work 
together . I'm sure that they've put their Religious differences aside and 
work together for the common good . I have not seen the fact that he was 
Jewish mentioned anywhere , infact I did nt even know until you mentioned it 
..
  Jews and Muslims (generally) all live and work together in the UK . 
Discrimination is illegal in this country


>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:37:21 +0100
>
>Peter
>
>What I mean is he would have found it difficult enough being a Jewish MP in 
>a Muslim area. So why make remarks about the veil that he knows full well 
>will generate controversy?
>
>No, the last remark conveys my geneal dislike and suspicion of all figures 
>in authority. Why? Look around you!
>
>bob
>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer" 
><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>
>
>>"The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>>Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>>Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>
>>  No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like 
>>Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for 
>>being derogatory towards Jews.
>>  So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>>Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that him 
>>being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be 
>>judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>
>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>>me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>
>>
>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>>>
>>>1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that Straw 
>>>of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No Peter, I'm 
>>>not remotely rascist;
>>>
>>>2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why 
>>>publicise it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim 
>>>women to remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's 
>>>promoting himself! Don't be so fucking naive.
>>>
>>>3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that he 
>>>thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing it. 
>>>So, he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. Right on 
>>>Jack!
>>>
>>>4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of 
>>>society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me or 
>>>anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>>
>>>
>>
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