[kj] Jaz Straw

[Alex Smith]

Judaism is both a faith AND an ethnicity, if I'm not mistaken. One can live an entirely secular lifestyle and still technically be Jewish.

Alex in NYC


-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>Sent: Oct 12, 2006 1:38 PM
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>
>Jew is a Religion
>
>No. Jewishness is a national identity as well as a religious ideology. 
>Hitler, bless him, regarded Jewish people as the lowest 'race' of all and 
>destined for annihilation.
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "flight Bringer" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>To: <gathering at misera.net>
>Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>
>
>> "The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that
>> Straw of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No
>> Peter, I'm not remotely rascist"
>>
>>  No ones accusing you of being a racist . Jew is a Religion (just like 
>> Islam) and not a race of people, so its impossible to be a racist for 
>> being derogatory towards Jews.
>>  So why do you feel the need to mention that he is Jewish?
>> Dont worry , its not a witch hunt . I just wondered why you feel that him 
>> being Jewish means that you find it suspicious . Should nt people be 
>> judged on what they do or say rather than where they pray ?
>>   Is your last paragraph connected ?
>>
>>   "I just know what people from that strata of
>> society are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you,
>> me or anyone else. Don't say I didn't warn you."
>>
>>
>>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
>>><gathering at misera.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:34:59 +0100
>>>
>>>1)  The fact that he's Jewish means I find it very suspicious that Straw 
>>>of all people should raise a storm as controversial as this.No Peter, I'm 
>>>not remotely rascist;
>>>
>>>2) If he feels uncomfortable about women wearing hijabs then why publicise 
>>>it? Surely his staff in Blackburn could simply invite Muslim women to 
>>>remove the veil for reasons of etiquette? Of course he's promoting 
>>>himself! Don't be so fucking naive.
>>>
>>>3) No. The implication is that, yes he feels uncomfortable, but that he 
>>>thinks Muslim women in general are isolating themselves by wearing it. So, 
>>>he's trying to liberate them from this monstrous tyranny. Right on Jack!
>>>
>>>4) I'm not pessimistic I just know what people from that strata of society 
>>>are like. Largely, they don't give a flying shit about you, me or anyone 
>>>else. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>>
>>>
>>
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