[kj] Jaz Straw
Robert Mallett
robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk
Thu Oct 12 04:40:56 EDT 2006
don't make it go to my head :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scarlet
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
OMG Bob - I want your babies, now!
That was an awesome digest of current political and religous polemics ;)
Will
Love
ALWays
Scarlet
On 10/10/06, Robert Mallett <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
OK, where to begin?
'Enough of that posturing and biggin up yourself '
You plainly have no understanding of how intellectual life functions. I am
an acknowledged world expert, and merely pointed out that fact to you
because, to be blunt, you're not. I'm not 'biggin up myself' as you
eloquently put it; I come from a council slum and let my peers enlarge my
profile for me. It's called modesty.
'I would respect you a lot more if you came
> back with an intelligent reply, rather than just telling me that you
> *Could* come back with an intelligent reply.'
I can give you an intelligent reply and am about to do so. Your bill for my
fee is in the post (Joke!).
'Jaz doesn't want Muslims
> to wear Western clothes and Jack doesn't want Western women to wear
> Eastern clothes.'
Do you really think that Jaz Coleman is an arbiter of sensible thought out
opinons? When has he ever been this, and especially of late. He's a
musician: that's it. The fact is that Islam is a massively diverse
ethno/political/religious ideology where one group may well be secularised
and wear modern clothes, while another dresses in 'traditional' garb, and
with all the accompanying mindsets. Between these two extremes lie so many
layers, strata and sub strata of Islamism that to say all should dress the
same is stupid. So, when did Coleman say it, under what circumstances (was
he pissed, stoned, coked or all three?) and why? For effect? When he 'came
close to converting? For fuck's sake!
Jack Straw is a cunt.
Apart from that, he in actual fact objected to Muslim female's wearing of
the veil in certain circumstances (eg 1 2 1 meetings) and not to 'Eastern
clothes', whatver the fuck you mean by that. Does this include the Fez and
the Kaftan?
'The hypocrisy of the Muslims is astounding '
The hypocrisy of the human species is astounding, period. Not all Muslims
behave in the way you ascribe to them, and in my view you're are trying to
be your usual 'funny clever self', but are veering perilously close to
racism or at least discrmination.
' The Pope says that
> Islam was a violent religion '
The Pope is a cunt.
Have you ever heard of the Crusades, The Conquistadores, the Inquisition,
the Ustasa and so on ad nauseam?
You want more Peter? Come and get it it
bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "flight Bringer" <flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
To: <gathering at misera.net >
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
> . I made a statement and if you wish to reply, then reply . I would
> respect you a lot more if you came back with an intelligent reply, rather
> than just telling me that you *Could* come back with an intelligent reply.
> Heres my statement again. Give it your best shot. The whole of the
> Gatherings watching and waiting in anticipation for a Teacher at an
> University with a PHD in Political extremism to speak.
>
>
> "You may label it as simple, but its too complex for you to give a
> reasonable , intelligent well thought out reply to.
> It is quite a simple situation thought. > Jaz is therefore against
> integration and Jack is against the
> rudeness of the wearing of the Hijab . Have you ever spoke to
> someone wearing one ? It is uncomfortable . Would a Western women
> get away with wearing a Bikini on a beach in Saudi and cite that
> its part of her culture ?
> ., so in protest and disagreement
> Muslims hijack a plane and murder a Nun . A muslim Policeman asks not to
> guard the Israeli embassy because its against his principles
> and yet Muslims expect Police to protect them when they march in
> London calling for British soldiers to be killed. Astounding!!!"
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Robert Mallett" <robert at jrcardwell.fsnet.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the
>>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>>< gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:01:56 +0100
>>
>>You may label it as simple, but its too complex for you to give a
>>reasonable
>>, intelligent well thought out reply to.
>>
>>
>>Peter I have a PhD and teach political extremism at University. Without
>>wishing to be patronising do you really want to take me on?
>>
>>bob
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "flight Bringer"
>><flightbringer at hotmail.co.uk>
>>To: < gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:40 PM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Jaz Straw
>>
>>
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