[kj] Jaz Straw

[flight Bringer]

>You plainly have no understanding of how intellectual life functions.
*****Yes, you keep mentioning my lack of intelligence , are you trying to 
convince yourself  or me?****

I am an acknowledged world expert, and merely pointed out
>that fact to you because, to be blunt, you're not.
*****I ve never claimed to be************


I'm not 'biggin
>up myself' as you eloquently put it; I come from a council slum and let my 
>peers enlarge my profile for me. It's called modesty.

EEEEerrrr no. You are the one who keeps mentioning how intelligent you are, 
no one else does******


>
>Do you really think that Jaz Coleman is an arbiter of sensible thought out 
>opinions?

**************No . But this is a Killing Joke mailing list and therefore 
Killing joke is what we discuss , whether it be sensible mutterings  or 
not****************

When has he ever been this, and especially of
>late. He's a musician: that's it.

********He's also a lyricist***************

The fact is that Islam is a
>massively diverse ethno/political/religious ideology where one group may 
>well be secularised and wear modern clothes, while another dresses in 
>'traditional' garb, and with all the accompanying mindsets. Between these 
>two extremes lie so many layers, strata and sub strata of Islamism that to 
>say all should dress the same is stupid.
*********No one is saying that they should all dress the same . This is 
about one single piece of clothing and its effects on integration**********


So, when did Coleman say it, under what circumstances (was
>he pissed, stoned, coked or all three?) and why? For effect? When he 'came 
>close to converting? For fuck's sake!
>
Lyrics "Clothe your women the Western way"




>Jack Straw is a cunt.

*****Thats the Working class slums talking****
>
>Apart from that, he in actual fact objected to Muslim female's wearing of 
>the veil in certain circumstances (eg 1 2 1 meetings) and not to 'Eastern 
>clothes', whatver the fuck you mean by that. Does this include the Fez and 
>the Kaftan?
>
*****No. I could nt recall what the whole  dress was called ( something like 
Arubya ) so Isimply put Eastern clothes**********



>
>'The hypocrisy of the Muslims is astounding '
>
>The hypocrisy of the human species is astounding, period.

*******That maybe the case, but I was discussing hypocrisy with-in the 
Muslim religion***


Not all
>Muslims behave in the way you ascribe to them,

*****Where did I say "All" Muslims? I'm talking about the fanatical 
minority********

 >
>
>' The Pope says that
>>Islam was a violent religion '
>
>The Pope is a cunt.
>

******The Pope said a truth from history . People should nt have to 
apologise for stating historical facts*****


>Have you ever heard of the Crusades,
******Yes. The Christians fought back against the invading Muslims**********



The Conquistadores,

***Nope, not heard of it**********

the
>Inquisition,

********Spanish?**************


the Ustasa

*****Nope, not heard of it******************

and so on ad nauseam?

********Latin?************

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