[kj] Recent KJ trivia (and Raven)

nicholas fitzpatrick gasw30 at hotmail.com
Tue May 23 10:57:42 EDT 2006




>From: fluw <fluwdot at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the 
>band!)"<gathering at misera.net>
>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
><gathering at misera.net>
>Subject: Re: [kj] Recent KJ trivia (and Raven)
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:01:53 -0400
>
>ironic, all the positive 'inseparable music and politics' talk from raven 
>when but a few years ago he helped to intermit political conversation on 
>this forum.
>
>yet now he is promoting this aspect of his new affiliation that is railing 
>against bush administration "lies,lies,lies":
>/when in 2001 - 2002/, raven was on this and joe's forum calling to invade 
>and "kill'em all" "sand nigger " remarks and lending aid for the blurring 
>of the lines between al queda and iraq with vehement support of his forum 
>buddy. all the while deriding and attempting to squelch people who 
>*challenged* arguments *for the war* -
>
>/ in 2001/ - 2002 - so many were blinded by their anger and fear of recent 
>terrorist events that the majority was effectively cowering at the thought 
>of questioning invasions and war against "sand niggers"
>
>but now that the lies that were known then are accepted in the mainstream 
>and all the war mongers are shown to be what they are and the majority is 
>finally against the bush demagoguery machine and popstars are feeling 
>cocky...looky here, so does big bird.
>
>what an attractive trait, constantly vacillating to the most fashionable 
>insurrection...it is only fitting that a personality like this breeds 
>animals for kill sport.
>what one is capable with innocent animals, so will be with humans.
>
>*--------------------------------*
>nicholas fitzpatrick wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>HEADLINE: Ministry is still raging against the machine
>>
>>
>>Pearl Jam and Neil Young may have their recently released anti-war albums, 
>>but when it comes to pure vitriolic revolution songs, Al Jourgensen and 
>>his industrial thrash band Ministry rails against George W. Bush like no 
>>one else.
>>
>>Brimming with indignant rage, Ministry's new album, "Rio Grande Blood," 
>>recaptures the revolutionary spirit of the band's heyday (see 1992's 
>>"Psalm 69"). Through 10 blistering tracks, Jourgensen and his crew rant on 
>>topics ranging from corporate corruption ("Fear (Is Big Business)") to 
>>9/11 ("Lies, Lies, Lies") to U.S. military policy ("Gangreen").
>>
>>Jourgensen takes shots at Dubya at every turn, asking a question on "Lies, 
>>Lies Lies": If the government truly has nothing to hide / Why are they 
>>afraid to answer a few questions?
>>
>>Jourgensen incorporates an all-star team of musicians on the album and the 
>>subsequent tour (stopping at the House of Blues downtown Sunday night), 
>>including drummer Joey Jordison (Slipknot), guitarist Mike Scaccia (Rigor 
>>Mortis), keyboardist John Bechdel (Fear Factory, Prong) guitarist Tommy 
>>Victor (Prong) and bassist Paul Raven (Killing Joke).
>>
>>"I think we represent the spirit of rebellion that has been very 
>>underground as far as music is concerned," said bassist Raven. "I can't 
>>tell you what all these industrial bands and people like Trent Reznor are 
>>doing. I got into music in 1977 in the time of punk rock. Music and 
>>politics has been inseparable."
>>
>>About the tour, Raven said: "We call it Ministry on steroids, because 
>>everyone says it's the best they've heard the band. We take our cues off 
>>of a lot of what the fans say. They get online after every show and 
>>dissect the show. We look at that in the morning and take it in."
>>


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